No4 Rifle:Which armoury made the most accurate?

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Of all the manufacturers of all the various Mks of the N04 rifle, which as- issued is considered the most accurate firing service ammo(174 FMJ).
I have a Faz Mk 2 that i think is excellent in the accuracy department, but I would like a more fact based apples to apples comparison.:wave:
 
I doubt if a proper comparative study was ever done. And if it wasn't done with new rifles, in numbers that are "statistically significant" it doesn't answer the question.
 
You might find, overall, that manufacture date has more to do with accuracy than manufacture location. Any of the Fazakerly No 4 Mk 2's that I have seen (often Irish contract) are excellent shooters. I believe this is mostly because they were not made in an absolute panic, during a war, while the country was being bombed, etc. I imagine the manufacturing tolerances were let slide a little during the war and tightened back up afterward, even if not officially. That being said, I have also seen wartime rifles that shoot great as well. I just think your chances for accuracy are greatly improved with rifles made (or FTR'd) in the late 1940s or 1950s.
 
Impossible to say or speculate on. We all have our favorites, I have seen many different models and manufactures that shot very well.

Pete
 
myenfield said:
You might find, overall, that manufacture date has more to do with accuracy than manufacture location. Any of the Fazakerly No 4 Mk 2's that I have seen (often Irish contract) are excellent shooters. I believe this is mostly because they were not made in an absolute panic, during a war, while the country was being bombed, etc. I imagine the manufacturing tolerances were let slide a little during the war and tightened back up afterward, even if not officially. That being said, I have also seen wartime rifles that shoot great as well. I just think your chances for accuracy are greatly improved with rifles made (or FTR'd) in the late 1940s or 1950s.
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post war Faz or Longbranch production rifles would be my guess for accuracy. Also post war FTR rifles would be a good bet as most seem to have had their barrels replaced.
 
You say tomatoe, I say tomahtoe. The degree of barrel wear will tell the tale. My late uncle used to tell me about the Long Branch that he was issued in Europe. It was such a tack-driver that he really wanted to bring it home in his kitbag. As it was he had to settle for his own personal issue S&W revolver plus another matching one and a P38 which got mailed home in pieces.
 
So the accuracy standards that were minimum were the same for all Factories? Were some factories producing rifles that were significantly under accuracy minimum? What was the minumum accuracy standard for a new No4 and what groupings were selected rifles for (T) upgrades? I guess i need Ian's book on the Lee Enfield.:wave:
 
nice to hear these comments.. I have a Fazakerly convert No4 Mk 2, and a professionally sporterized Longbranch ( I did NOT do this to the poor rifle.. but it wasnt the home bubba job. And it has a quality monte carlo stock).

I like both, but have yet to shoot the Faz.. soon

:)
 
Don't know about initial acceptance standards, but in service standards were as fols IAW Cdn Army EMEIs.

For regular service rifles; 5 shots in a rectangle measuring 1" horizontal x !.5" vertical. One could extrapolate this to 4" horiz x 6" vert @ 100 yds

For scoped sniper rifles; 5 shots in a 3" x 3" square @ 100 yds

As has been said before, there were no practical differences in accuracy among the 2,5, and 6 groove barrels. I can attest to that on the basis of my own experience.
 
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