I purchased another N.O.E. mould yesterday. I purchased the 360429 168Gr. SWC RG4 cavity PB. That is the 5th N.O.E and I really like them. I've thought about trying other makes but why mess with what works? The service from N.O.E. is great. I order, they ship boom done. This new mould comes with pins to make HPs or regular SWC. It will be fun to see how they turn out and perform.