Non refurb Sks?
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Local deal. the guy came from out of town to go to the mall with his wife, cough cough. Needless to say, he had to sell. But he was ready to throw in a lot of free stuff, good deal for both of us. Many people don't want to ship. I have 2 more deals in town which are itching me, but not spending anything this month, lol. Let's see. Still suffering from the SR I want to slam against the wall, considering I must have bought 20 or more type 81 from TI (and resold with a very small handling fee), this one sucks so far.
Yes I saw the $700. I passed on one a while ago, was even lower at 450. I would never pay even 500 for one with that magazine weld. Maybe he will be the lucky winner. Don't care. Those "how much is my rifle worth" topics always end up picking the highest price.
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That means the mag was altered of course. Back then, because the rifles were so modestly priced, they did the alterations as cheap and dirty as possible, usually destroying most of the numbers on the mags.
Some people turn their noses up at this, because there are still a lot of unconverted and different forms of conversions out there, if you want to go through the trouble of looking for them. For some, that's part of the fun of seeking out collector pieces.
The welded pin does detract from the ''originality'' but it is part of the history of the rifles.
Just look at the Russian Capture K98s that came onto the surplus markets a few decades back. Even the best of them were a hard sell and many of them were broken down for builds. Usually the best that could be sourced.
Now, those rifles fetch anywhere from $850-$1200+ depending on location and condition or rarity of the manufacturer stamp/date on the receiver ring.
You can take a non number matching, sand or file off and restamp them with the proper available letters and reblu. I heard people doing it, most won't notice. On a SKS magazine, you put a wooden block on the back for example. I have never done it nor would I do it, just a warning to people being vigilant.
The chances of running across such a piece are slim. Especially on a rifle that isn't worth as much as the tooling required to do the job back in the day.
Being vigilant on valuable firearms is only good common sense, in this case ????????????????????
Is there an inspection stamp on the right side of the stock ? a Cartouche so it's called ? looks like a 1951 as someone said lightly used and it still has the stamps around the cross bolt . non chrome lined barrel who cares . with the going prices I'd say at least $650 plus . and there isn't any square stamp on top of the recoil spring cover. there is a small mark in the wood just behind the recoil spring cover ? stamp . number ? and there was a company years ago that imported sks rifles and Nagants and all that is Russian on here and they had someone weld something in the bottom of the mag to limit it to 5 shots .
I remember people calling it franken welded . buddy and his brother went to Russia from what I heard to buy them all . or the Ukraine. that Dealer isn't on here anymore .
I remember people calling it franken welded . buddy and his brother went to Russia from what I heard to buy them all . or the Ukraine. that Dealer isn't on here anymore .
Not entirely true: Original 1956-1958 Soviet letter carbines have serial number only on the stock.
There is no solid evidence that the crossbolt stamps are original inspection stamps from manufacture or indications of refurbishment. Given the varying states of wear among crossbolt stamps, it is far more likely that the crossbolt cartouches are indication of multiple scheduled inspection/maintenance of rifles kept in storage.
Not true. Blued bayonets are not a definitive indication of refurbishment, and are commonly found on some of the most pristine examples of the Soviet SKS. The bluing is most likely a post-manufacture, anti-corrosion measure for rifles intended for long term storage. Same with the golden bayonets.
Misaligned staking marks on the bayonet screw are not a definitive indication of refurbishment. They only indicate the possibility that the bayonet may have been removed and then re-installed.
Wow! She's a beauty.
From the few photos it looks like it went straight in to deep storage, possibly never issued.
Matching serial numbers are not a definitive indication of all original parts. Replacement parts, though serial-matching, will commonly be stamped with a different type font. If all the serials are in the same font, this is most likely an all original, non-issued carbine. In the states, this would be sell well over $1200 USD every day of the week.
Sad to see you let it go.
I think you are both right , hes talking about wood and you are talking about laminated.
question, why would the bayo be removed between storage and issued and how often?
for everybody. heres a post i found in the US forum to be very useful.
https://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=77478.0
I agree. I realize he may have been referring specifically to 1954 stocks like the op rifle
Removal of bayonet would be required for post-production bluing as corrosion protection during long term storage. Keep in mind that the 1990's soviet sks imports were not coated in heavy cosmoline.
Staked bayonet screws are notoriously easy to remove with a flat head screwdriver, a firm grip and a sturdy twist. So it is impossible to tell if misaligned staking marks were incurred at the factory or post import. Oddly, though, misaligned staking marks on bayonet screws can often be realigned indicating that bayonet screws are often original to the rifle they came with.
Golden coated bayonets commonly have staking marks still aligned because it was a simpler application than bluing and the bayonet did not need to be removed to apply the protective finish which was likely a quick drying dip or brush on application.
No. Some bayonets were blued. Some got the golden coating. Some were left in the white.
It likely had to do with where they were stored or how frequently or infrequently they underwent inspection and regular maintenance. The US imports from the 1990's bear zero indication of the heavy cosmoline dip we see with Mosin Nagant imports, Tokarevs, and the Chinese Type56's from Albania for example. If the Soviet sks were not stored in cosmoline, they would have required regular maintenance for corrosion and stock refinish due to wood shrinkage and expansion from freezing cold and heat and humid seasonal fluctuations.
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I had one of those. Early 2008 IZH import. As-issued. Mine is non-refurbished with a small piece of barstock tack welded to the follower arm.
