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I'm here in Nova Scotia, and considering buying a handgun or two. I understand the necessity to be a member of a club (or in some cases indicating your intention to join one).

But does anybody know if you can get away with just stating your intention to use your handgun on a government maintained range? Here in Nova Scotia, the closest range to me is a DNR maintained range. Can this work?

ht tp://www.gov.ns.ca/natr/hunt/Range_Locns.asp
 
You need to be involved with a club. I don't know if they will give you an ATT to transport your handgun from your home to the DNR range, unless you are involved with a club. You can buy the handguns and have your RPAL but they won't be able to leave your home unless your part of a club to go shooting is my understanding.
 
Lots of looks with only one answer...so is this because warf is right, or that answer makes sense, or this hasn't been attempted so nobody really knows.
 
I don't know, but what's a DNR range? Google says Department of National Revenue? The tax man has a gun range? Oh noes!
We've got a beautiful DND range out here (Volkes), but it's not open to the general public. My club renewal is $100, which is like a good box of 300wsm, so... support your club. My 2 cents.
 
It depends on the province to some extent. Also you'll need to confirm that the range you indicated is actually registered as a valid range for discharge of restricted firearms and handguns in particular.

For me, and many others, a huge part of the fun with handguns is to use them in the various competitions. I'd suggest you look into this and consider joining whichever local club supports and hosts such meets. Standing on one spot and putting holes in paper gets old pretty quickly. Shooting while under the "threat" of a timer and having to move around and reload all under the clock really puts a grin on the ol' mug.... :D
 
Saison said:
I'm here in Nova Scotia, and considering buying a handgun or two. I understand the necessity to be a member of a club (or in some cases indicating your intention to join one).

But does anybody know if you can get away with just stating your intention to use your handgun on a government maintained range? Here in Nova Scotia, the closest range to me is a DNR maintained range. Can this work?

ht tp://www.gov.ns.ca/natr/hunt/Range_Locns.asp
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While you will need an ATT to transport your restricted firearms to an approved shooting range, you would not necessarily need to be a member of any given club. You will have to satisfy your CFO of your intent - whatever that is - and if your intent is target shooting you will have to satisfy your CFO that the conditions are both reasonable and legal. And the CFO might be hard to convince. The following court decision details the lengths to which a person might be challenged to prove his case.

New Brunswick ATT Court Decision
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280782
Gould v. New Brunswick (Chief Firearms), 2008 NBPC 24 (CanLII)
http://www.canlii.org/en/nb/nbpc/doc/2008/2008nbpc24/2008nbpc24.html
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It will be easier (and cheaper) to satisfy your CFO of this if you are a member of an approved shooting club - and you should maintain a membership in an approved shooting club - but, as Gould v. New Brunswick proved, the lack of a membership is not necessarily a disqualifier to an ATT.


Fact Sheets concerning the Firearms Act
<http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/index-eng.htm>
Allowable purposes for possession, under Section 28(b) of the Firearms Act, include: a) target practice or target shooting competition; or b) to form part of a firearms collection. As part of the confirmation of purpose, the CFO “…shall decide whether any of those firearms or handguns that the individual possesses are being used for…” target practice/competition or collection.

Further, the CFO has the authority under Section 15(1) of the Shooting Clubs and Shooting Ranges Regulations to request written confirmation from a shooting club/range of “…the participation, if any, of a current or past member…of the shooting club…in target practice or target shooting competitions within the previous five years… .” What this means is that an individual must demonstrate to the CFO that they possess the firearm for the purpose they indicated when the firearm was acquired. The CFO is able to confirm the purpose by looking at an individual’s history of ATT issuance over the term of their licence (for target practice) and by reviewing the records kept by a club/range.

If the CFO determines that the restricted/prohibited firearm is not being used for the purpose stated by the individual, the CFO can recommend to the Canadian Firearms Program that the registration certificate for the firearm be revoked. If revoked, the individual would be required to dispose of the firearm (transfer of registration, turn-in to police for destruction).

<http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/target_cible-eng.htm>
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Firearms Act (S.C. 1995, c. 39)
<http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/index.html>

Permitted purposes

28. A chief firearms officer may approve the transfer to an individual of a restricted firearm or a handgun referred to in subsection 12(6.1) (pre-December 1, 1998 handguns) only if the chief firearms officer is satisfied

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(a) that the individual needs the restricted firearm or handgun
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(i) to protect the life of that individual or of other individuals, or
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(ii) for use in connection with his or her lawful profession or occupation; or
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(b) that the purpose for which the individual wishes to acquire the restricted firearm or handgun is
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(i) for use in target practice, or a target shooting competition, under conditions specified in an authorization to transport or under the auspices of a shooting club or shooting range that is approved under section 29, or
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(ii) to form part of a gun collection of the individual, in the case of an individual who satisfies the criteria described in section 30.

* 1995, c. 39, s. 28;
* 2003, c. 8, s. 21.

<http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/page-8.html>
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Related threads:

Wanting to buy a restricted....Question
<http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617047>

Tell me about the AMA range in Halifax
<http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5511974>

Meeting place for Newbies and Mentors - Maritimes
<http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99332>

Nova Scotia varmint hunting???
<http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373897>

Cape Breton Gun Clubs?
<http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=614332>
 
Thanks for the info. My issue is this: my DNR handgun approved range is far closer to home than any club I would have time to attend. I don't see the sense in paying for membership to a club I will most likely never go to, in order to make CFO happy enough to issue a temporary ATT to go to the DNR range (which I am assuming is the only way to get there with a restricted if you can't get a one year ATT) All I can do is ask, and see what happens.

I also understand the relevance of the term 'sense' when it comes to restricted weapons, lol.

Target shooting is my intent, btw.
 
Saison said:
Thanks for the info. My issue is this: my DNR handgun approved range is far closer to home than any club I would have time to attend. I don't see the sense in paying for membership to a club I will most likely never go to, in order to make CFO happy enough to issue a temporary ATT to go to the DNR range (which I am assuming is the only way to get there with a restricted if you can't get a one year ATT) All I can do is ask, and see what happens.

I also understand the relevance of the term 'sense' when it comes to restricted weapons, lol.

Target shooting is my intent, btw.
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Generally speaking, as far as I know, DNR - by policy - does NOT allow an individual to shoot a restricted firearm on any DNR range.

However, DNR - by policy - MAY enter into a written agreement with a particular approved shooting club to permit the shooting of restricted firearms on a particular DNR range by that club's members.

Either way, you're going to have to join an approved shooting club.
 
Not quite so Wendell.Some DNR ranges will book the range for restricted without a club but others will not.Depends on the area supervisor. To the OP your best bet is probably to get a club membership because the cost is generally low here in NS and it's easier to spend $50 for a membership than argue with the CFO for months on end trying to get your restricted purchase approved.Once you get your restricted transferred apply for an ATT for ALL approved ranges in NS.Then you can use it to either go to your club or any other range in the province(DNR or other clubs as a guest).That's what I did.I shoot at my club but also shoot at a couple different DNR ranges when I'm traveling around the province on business.
 
You don't want the cheapest club.

You want the approved shooting club that has already negotiated access to that DNR range which you've already identified as being nearest to you. If you call your local DNR office, they will tell you the name - if there is one - of an approved shooting club that uses that particular range. Then, with the name of that approved shooting club, either visit or contact the CFO's office. The CFO's office will give you contact information for that particular approved shooting club.

Then, join that club.

<http://www.gov.ns.ca/natr/hunt/Range_Locns.asp>
<http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/cfo-caf/cfo-caf-eng.htm#ns>
 
Reasonable advice. I'll call DNR this week and ask about their policies, and let you all know how things progress. Happy new Year!
 
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