Norinco 1911

my Norky Comm has only barrel, frame and slide from original Nork, everything else I've changed with Ed Brown, Wilson Combat, Fusion parts and rosewood K.Ahrends grips.
also frame is hard chromed by Kotanko
this pistol shoot like a champion !
 
mmcintyre1220 said:
I am looking to start upgrading my norinco 1911. I do not have much gunsmithing experience so I am looking for some easy tasks to start with. Any suggestions out there?

Thanks
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I would sell the Norc, add some ca$h and upgrade...

Nothing against Norcs but a $300 Norc with $500 in upgrades is a $300 Norc. I have read many posts of people who dump money into their Norc only to realize they could have had a Kimber for the money. Wish they hadn't done the upgrades. Just another option...
 
AWOL said:
I would sell the Norc, add some ca$h and upgrade...

Nothing against Norcs but a $300 Norc with $500 in upgrades is a $300 Norc. I have read many posts of people who dump money into their Norc only to realize they could have had a Kimber for the money. Wish they hadn't done the upgrades. Just another option...
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A $300 Norc with $500 in upgrades won't be worth $800 on the used market but if the work was well done and it's a shooter it will be worth more then $300.

A Kimber with custom work done to it will also not increase in value by the cost of the work done to it.....it's just the way it goes when you pimp your ####!

The nice thing about that $300 Norinco is it will only depreciate by the amount of tax and shipping you paid plus another $50 if you are in a hurry to sell.....the same can't be said for most 1911's in the $800-$1000 range.
 
Can-down said:
A Kimber with custom work done to it will also not increase in value by the cost of the work done to it.....
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I agree however the Kimber doesn't need custom work to make it awesome. I agree with your post in general and for the most part, it doesn't contradict mine. It's simply a different perspective. I guess I'm saying that for the price of the Norc and the cost of the "upgrades" required to make it equal to the Kimber, you could have the Kimber. In the end, both cost the same but the Kimber is worth 2x the Norc on the resale market. YMMV
 
AWOL said:
I agree however the Kimber doesn't need custom work to make it awesome. I agree with your post in general and for the most part, it doesn't contradict mine. It's simply a different perspective. I guess I'm saying that for the price of the Norc and the cost of the "upgrades" required to make it equal to the Kimber, you could have the Kimber. In the end, both cost the same but the Kimber is worth 2x the Norc on the resale market. YMMV
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For sure if you aren't a handy guy with the tools and in to tinkering then a Kimber or a Ruger or an STI would be a better choice.
 
I don't see why you're assuming people are spending $800 on their Norc's. You can get the gun running fine with just some work at home.

Speaking of which... My .45 runs like a clock. But my new 9mm norc is having issues getting the mag seated when the slide is forward (clicks in well when locked back of course), And if I do slam it in there, it puts a lot of pressure on the mag release and I have to push it hard to release. Any tips on what I should do?
 
AWOL said:
I would sell the Norc, add some ca$h and upgrade...

Nothing against Norcs but a $300 Norc with $500 in upgrades is a $300 Norc. I have read many posts of people who dump money into their Norc only to realize they could have had a Kimber for the money. Wish they hadn't done the upgrades. Just another option...
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My Norc runs perfect no issues at all. I shoot it just as well as any other 1911. I just bought the norinco to tinker with and have some fun with. I will put $500 or what ever i deiced to spend on the norc as I bought it to learn and have fun building a 1911. I also plan to buy either a ruger sr1911 or kimber or maybe both because I want a nice high quality stainless 1911.



AWOL said:
I agree however the Kimber doesn't need custom work to make it awesome. I agree with your post in general and for the most part, it doesn't contradict mine. It's simply a different perspective. I guess I'm saying that for the price of the Norc and the cost of the "upgrades" required to make it equal to the Kimber, you could have the Kimber. In the end, both cost the same but the Kimber is worth 2x the Norc on the resale market. YMMV
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I agree the kimber is awesome but any gun out there unless it is completely custom built and fully tuned can use some custom work.
 
Dacton said:
Full length guide rod, extended slide release and safety from brownells. Some things they cant ship here though
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tjhaile said:
Do an appendectomy on it and lose the full length guide rod. Replace the extended slide stop with a regular one. Buy the Jerry Kuhnhausen book.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=13805/Product/JERRY-KUHNHAUSEN-THE-COLT-45-AUTOMATIC
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You both have opposite suggestions. Can either of you or any one else explain what the difference between a full length guide rod and a short guide rod ( besides one is longer than the other) What are the pluses and minuses ?

I defiantly want to loose the extended safety as i find it gets in the way.

If I replaced the guide rod, would that need to be "custom" fit or will it drop right in?
 
keep the rod, it gives you a bit of weight out front, keeps the spring truer. to replace with a stock rod is drop in + a diff plug. your next step, assuming the trigger is good, is a good barrel & bush, & frame to slide fit, these require a good gun smith. then it'll hold less than 3" @ 50yds.[ av of 5 , 5shot groups out of a ramsom]. ask the kimber/ sti guys what they get, out of the box.
 
1. Full length guide rods:
-Do nothing for reliability at best and may compromise reliability. A standard short rod and recoil spring plug provide ample guidance.
-Complicate disassembly
-Limit your options for one-handed slide manipulation
-Have a negligible impact on accuracy. The FBI contract requirement for the Springfield Professional stipulates 1.5" 10 shot groups at 25 yards. This is a pistol with a standard guide rod.
-Any gains in controllability are negligible compared with learning to manage your gun properly.
-Hilton Yam, Jeff Cooper, and Larry Vickers among others all recommend against them.

To be honest, most of the negatives are relatively minor for a game/recreational gun, but I just plain think they're fruity.

2. Extended slide stops:
-Make the slide more prone to locking back prematurely.
-Are unnecessary if you use your support hand to release the slide or just slingshot it.

While nothing is guaranteed to be "drop-in" in a 1911, either part will probably drop in or it shouldn't be too difficult to make it work. This is where the Kuhnhausen book comes into play.
 
Replace the grips.

Replace extended safety (and ambi) with a regular one.

Install an adjustable rear sight. LPA fits.

Get a trigger job (not for you to do).


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