Norinco 308 in 308 Garand experience?
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Thanks for the helpful replies...haha....
Correct, I'm not really set up for reloading at this time.
I may have still have one of the adjustable gas plugs in the bins somewhere, but perhaps I will lean towards getting some brass cased Federal again.
Correct, I'm not really set up for reloading at this time.
I may have still have one of the adjustable gas plugs in the bins somewhere, but perhaps I will lean towards getting some brass cased Federal again.
Look into reloading, OR look for 308 ammo stamped 762x51. This is loaded for military, and the military 308 shoots softer than the civilian 308 I have been told.
If you're not careful you'll end up bending your op-rod.
308 and 7.62 have the same pressure limits. But 308 loaded with heavier bullets uses a slower powder (higher port pressure) which can cause problems. Shoot 150 gr 308 ammo and you are good.
You sure about that?
Are you sure about that? There is much discussion about which speed powders to use when reloading for Garand type rifles.Powders slower than IMR4064 are not thought to be a good idea for reloading for Garands.The issue being pressure curve of the powders as much as peak pressure of load. Lots of discussion on CMP Forums and other some reloading manuals and sites. It was my understanding that if pressure curve was wrong you could damage operating rod of Garands.It's been my experience some 308 NATO surplus seems hotter than others (Never been curious enough to chronograph them to compare them, too lazy and not keen to have my Labradar whacked by ejected rounds) and hence not cool for Garands. Hirtenberger for instance ejects more violently than some 1979 Santa Barbara and older Portuguese surplus 308.
I'm always interested to hear other thoughts on the matter, but for my pet 308 Garand, I prefer to stick with moderate loads of Vihtavouri N135 and IMR 4895 with 147-155gr bullets.
Happy New Year, back to watching football now.
Are you sure about that? There is much discussion about which speed powders to use when reloading for Garand type rifles.Powders slower than IMR4064 are not thought to be a good idea for reloading for Garands.The issue being pressure curve of the powders as much as peak pressure of load. Lots of discussion on CMP Forums and other some reloading manuals and sites. It was my understanding that if pressure curve was wrong you could damage operating rod of Garands.It's been my experience some 308 NATO surplus seems hotter than others (Never been curious enough to chronograph them to compare them, too lazy and not keen to have my Labradar whacked by ejected rounds) and hence not cool for Garands. Hirtenberger for instance ejects more violently than some 1979 Santa Barbara and older Portuguese surplus 308. I'm always interested to hear other thoughts on the matter, but for my pet 308 Garand, I prefer to stick with moderate loads of Vihtavouri N135 and IMR 4895 with 147-155gr bullets.
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I'm always interested to hear other thoughts on the matter, but for my pet 308 Garand, I prefer to stick with moderate loads of Vihtavouri N135 and IMR 4895 with 147-155gr bullets.
Hello - I am curious about that Hirtenberger - I have several hundred rounds here. Headstamp reads 79 at the top, then a star on each side, then 7.62x51 around the bottom. Primer has three "staking" punch marks, and a green sealant around the primer. A full metal jacket bullet. But no NATO "cross in a circle" - so is Hirtenberger actually milsurp NATO ammo??
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Austria is not a member of NATO.
Handloading can be a very interesting and rewarding hobby into itself, make an initial investment in some tooling, learn as much as you can and load for your Garand. Once fired brass for the .308 is everywhere, and stockpile components when you can, you will never experience an ammo shortage again. Stay away from Chinese surplus ammo.
There doesn't seem to be any 24 inch barrels in America in 3006 or 308, so, Canada is almost out of the picture
There is also getting to be a parts shortage on some parts
So, you have to make a list from various parts dealer's and make your order
The prices are really going up for nice parts
There is also getting to be a parts shortage on some parts
So, you have to make a list from various parts dealer's and make your order
The prices are really going up for nice parts
