norinco 97 trench disassembly?

[Brentn]

Just bought this guy, looks like a real solid shotgun. The action however is really rough and gritty, it just needs a good cleaning of the packing grease (most of it is dried up) and a good lubrication.

I read a guide here on how to disassemble the shotgun, but its for a different model. Norinco has a one piece reciever, and the one in the guide has two. I can get to step 7 but thats where it ends, the carrier will NOT come out the bottom. I played around with it a little and was able to wedge the carrier forward quite a bit, but something is holding it in there and it won't wiggle/drop out. I eventually gave up and just put all the pins/screws back in.

Has anyone disassembled the norinco before?
Could you give me a step by step if you have? The guide is lacking something, or I'm missing something because that carrier will not come out. I'm trying to do this with the stock, magazine tube and barrel still on.

Thanks for your help

 

[buffdog]

Model 97 -disassembly and cleaning

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The Norinco 97 is a copy of the Winchester 1897 (referred to as the Model 97 by some). The NRA publishes a book "the NRA Guide to Firearms Assembly." In it, it shows how to take the Winchester 1897 apart.

Winchester made this shotgun in two models---a solid frame with the barrel securely attached---and a takedown model where the barrel and magazine assembly could be taken off.

While a good shotgun for it's time, it has a lot of parts in it. If you are not really sure what you are doing, it is probably best to leave it alone.

If it is really dirty, buy a spray can of carburetor cleaner at an auto parts store. Wear safety glasses and rubber gloves, take the gun outdoors, open the action, and spray the cleaner into the action so that the crud comes out the bottom of the receiver. If it is really bad, use an old toothbrush, small screw driver, or small pointed stick to loosen the hardened crap. A few applications will usually have cleaned the action.

Be sure to oil the action moving parts LIGHTLY with a good gun oil. Do not use 3-in-1 as it is too heavy, attracts dirt, and rust can form under it. Do not use WD-40 as it is a penetrant and cleaner, and does not lubricate well over the long run. Gun oils in spray cans can be bought at a local gun store. APPLY OIL SPARINGLY ---do not spray soak the action. Also, store guns horizontally if possible, because oil will soak and weaken your stocks.
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[straightshooter]

If you don't mind spending $25 - $40, just google "Winchester 1897 DVD". There's a bunch of them out there. I bought one from "The Cowboys and Indians Shop" that's amateurish, but reasonably informative, if you're handy with tools. They charge $20 USD plus shipping for theirs.

 

[Brentn]

I really don't want to pay for something that I'm going to watch once for a 30 second part on how to do something. I was just wondering if anyone here has a 97 and has disassembled it before, thats all. I've taken lots of guns apart before, I have 100% confidence that I can handle this, and with enough time I'm sure I can figure it out. If someone out there can save me a couple hours in 'figuring out time' and just tell me how to get that carrier out, I would greatly appreciate it.

If all else fails, I suppose I'll have to buy the dvd, thanks for that advice.