I did some shooting this weekend at Target in Gormley, I shot a 9mm Beretta 92 and a Norinco 1911 Commander. With the Beretta I did about as well as I have with any other 9mm but with the Norc I did way better! Was it just blind luck or are 1911's (even Norc's) more accurate than most 9mm?
Norinco accuracy?
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easyrider604
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Didn't you know that Norkies are cheap POS jammamatics that can not hit the broad side of anything? Blind luck is all.
Kidding aside, accuracy from good pistols and good ammo should be similar. But how you well you shoot a pistol depends on how the gun fits your hand, the trigger, and of course your skill.
My Norkie 1911s are about as accurate, or inaccurate depending on who is looking at my groups, as my Ruger P89s. Six-inch 8/10 shot groups at 15 meters, standing two hand grip is the best I can do with my reloads. I hope to get better results as I shoot more.
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funny to see the words norinco and accuracy in the same sentance without the word NOT!
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all my Norks I ever own were 95% accurate out of the box, the best accuracy have the 1911's and NP22 (SIG copy), but generally I have no complains at all...good & realiable guns for a low price!
When you go from A.O.P. (any other pistol) to a 1911 (yes, even a Norc 1911) you get the benefit of the short, light, single action trigger and the great ergonomics that allow you to hold the pistol properly. If it's a 45 calibre 1911 you also get the advantage of the longer recoil cycle. In short you were shooting a gun that would let you 'be all that you can be'. And yes, Norc Commanders really are quite accurate.
Define accurate:
Nork are cheap but they have 85% of the job done; It will go bang and will be decently accurate.
Now for the extra 15% to perfection, if you want it to look good, super tight, have some bragging rights and do 1.5 inch groups @ 50 yards: add 3000$ and get a high end model (Les bauer, Wilson combat, Ed brown, etc). It's a mather of what you need and what you can afford
Nork are cheap but they have 85% of the job done; It will go bang and will be decently accurate.
Now for the extra 15% to perfection, if you want it to look good, super tight, have some bragging rights and do 1.5 inch groups @ 50 yards: add 3000$ and get a high end model (Les bauer, Wilson combat, Ed brown, etc). It's a mather of what you need and what you can afford
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Define accurate:
Nork are cheap but they have 85% of the job done; It will go bang and will be decently accurate.
Now for the extra 15% to perfection, if you want it to look good, super tight, have some bragging rights and do 1.5 inch groups @ 50 yards: add 3000$ and get a high end model (Les bauer, Wilson combat, Ed brown, etc). It's a mather of what you need and what you can afford
A $3000 gun won't shoot for you tho...you still need to be making the shoots count.
True, but if you CAN shoot, the cheap gun will actually prevent you from shooting well. The $3000 gun ensures that every shot COULD be a ten. If it isn't, it's your fault and not the gun. That's why good shooters will spend big bucks on a good gun.
easyrider604
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A good shooter can shoot any gun well. For $3K, I'd rather have 4 Armco'd Norkie 1911 Sports and spend the change on lots of Tripp mags, or reloading components.
If you can master a stock (un-Armco'd) Norkie 1911, shooting a high-end custom will be a lot easier and more fun
Aside from being prettier and perhaps a little better to hold and assuming the stock sights work for you, the only significant advantage the high-end custom would be in accuracy over 25 meters, where match barrels should produce smaller groups.
I've always believed it is the operator, not the operatee that makes a whole lot of difference. Works true with anything in this world.
IIRC, Sgt York used a stock 1911 to win his Congressional Medal of Honor. I am pretty sure the Norkie 1911 is every bit as good as the Colt issued to Sgt. York.
Yep - operator makes all the difference. I laugh when I go to training sessions and hear guys complain that "their gun isn't as accurate" as some of their peers. Then the instructor comes over and shows them what their pistol is capable of in the hands of a good shooter. All comes down to mastering those fundamentals, grip, trigger pull and sight picture.
It's fun to watch folks who can alternate between DAO's, SA's - pistols and revolvers and make them all perform.
Practice practice practice - and even the cheapest chineese knock-off in the hands of a pro will outperform the 3000 dollar gun in the hands of a novice.
Soon to be owner of a Norinco 1911 Commander (if CFO ever gets their butt in gear!) - current HK P2000 shooter.
It's fun to watch folks who can alternate between DAO's, SA's - pistols and revolvers and make them all perform.
Practice practice practice - and even the cheapest chineese knock-off in the hands of a pro will outperform the 3000 dollar gun in the hands of a novice.
Soon to be owner of a Norinco 1911 Commander (if CFO ever gets their butt in gear!) - current HK P2000 shooter.
