Norinco JW-103??

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Hey guys,

I'm not sure if this would be the place to put this question...

I'm looking into buying an inexpensive bolt and hopefully sub-MOA bolt Rifle for targets around 200-500 meters

A friend of mine recommended looking into the 7.62x39 Norinco bolt rifle.
cheap with ammo and rifle.

i'm just wondering how accurate is this rifle as i've never had a chance to try it out.

Any suggestions or experience?

I welcome any and all comments and suggestion on this rifle.
 
Wrong gun. No gun is guaranteed sub-MOA, but I can guarantee that this won't be. 1 1/2 MOA perhaps, but even that's not likely with surplus ammo.
 
C9-Gunner said:
Hey guys,

I'm not sure if this would be the place to put this question...

I'm looking into buying an inexpensive bolt and hopefully sub-MOA bolt Rifle for targets around 200-500 meters

A friend of mine recommended looking into the 7.62x39 Norinco bolt rifle.
cheap with ammo and rifle.

i'm just wondering how accurate is this rifle as i've never had a chance to try it out.

Any suggestions or experience?

I welcome any and all comments and suggestion on this rifle.
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They are very average in terms of quality. Save a bit more and buy something quality second hand.

Also thats the wrong calibre for 500m.
 
landcruiserguy said:
They are very average in terms of quality. Save a bit more and buy something quality second hand.

Also thats the wrong calibre for 500m.
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ah ok

mainly my girlfriend wanted to try out a rifle with less recoil...

apparently my remington 700 in .300 is way too much kick.

so that's also why I'm looking at cheap + cheap *cough cough*

I usually shoot at 200 meters but if it could shoot further, why not.

What's the effective range on this rifle? if not MAXed out at 200m
 
I recently purchased this very rifle, mounted a scope, and sighted it in at 25 yards using military ammo. At that range my groups were about an inch and a half even with that type ammunition. I didn't have an opportunity to sight it in further, or at longer distances due to circumstances beyond my control, but I look forward to further experimentation and I've already loaded up some custom rounds for the upcoming year.
I was a little dissapointed with the quality of the rifle it'self at first, but as I shot it more, that dissapointment faded, but then I'm a little more tolerant than most people.
Hope this helps you a little.
 
Go over to the Red Rifle section.There are a couple of write ups there on the newly arrived rifles but no shooting reports as of yet
 
I have owned one could knock over 5x6inch steel plates at 200 yrds about 50% of the time off a lead sled .But grouping not very good was fun and cheap but no target gun
 
IMHO the 7.62x39 cartridge is a 100 to 200 meter light game caliber, non milsurp ammo of course.

And out of something like a CZ hunting rifle.

I have no experience with the Norinco JW-103 as they are not common out here and rather pricey for what they are for many.
Personally I'd rather put the $279.00 list price on one dealers site towards a Savage in .308.

But that's just my preference.
 
If you want to go .223 , try the Norinco JW-105. It might feel cheap, but I have now put it upo against my brothers savage .223 , and my brothers rem700 sps .223, my Norinco wins hands down every time, it is a tackdriver. I have numerous confirmed gopher kills past 400 yards, so distance to that range is possible. The barrel is 1-12 twist, so 55 grain is the heaviest I go.
 
punkrockboy said:
If you want to go .223 , try the Norinco JW-105. It might feel cheap, but I have now put it upo against my brothers savage .223 , and my brothers rem700 sps .223, my Norinco wins hands down every time, it is a tackdriver. I have numerous confirmed gopher kills past 400 yards, so distance to that range is possible. The barrel is 1-12 twist, so 55 grain is the heaviest I go.
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Well .223/5.56 is hard to come by and expensive and same with .308/7.62x51
I can't reload myself due to some by-law at the complex i live in. :(

My girlfriend goes through my 500rds of .22LR way too fast (1 day) and I imagine she'd do the same with the next rifle/rounds
That's why I want to get a cheap rifle with cheap ammo* lol
Her addiction to firearms and shooting is worst then mine.
Plus a little accuracy will never hurt


mkrainc said:
I recently purchased this very rifle, mounted a scope, and sighted it in at 25 yards using military ammo. At that range my groups were about an inch and a half even with that type ammunition. I didn't have an opportunity to sight it in further, or at longer distances due to circumstances beyond my control, but I look forward to further experimentation and I've already loaded up some custom rounds for the upcoming year.
I was a little dissapointed with the quality of the rifle it'self at first, but as I shot it more, that dissapointment faded, but then I'm a little more tolerant than most people.
Hope this helps you a little.
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humm...
25 yards, I'm very tolerant as well, I finally got my SKS to shoot a 1 inch group at 100 meters with surplus.
 
Calum said:
Unless you put the empty component boxes in the recycling bins or do something incredibly stupid then just how would they know? :rolleyes:
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I go against rules sometimes but the storage of flammable/expolsive materials in a complex full of kids. I don't think it's worth it, just a personal opinion.

So, if not the JW-103.
Does anyone know of a good Bolt Action that's somewhat under the $500 price range with "decent" accuracy?
And a Calibre size that won't break the piggy-bank?
 
Buy a Stevens 200 in .223.
There is not much centerfire that is cheap to shoot anymore.
It seems the federal government has closed the borders to inexpensive milsurp that isn't corrosive.

The JW103 (in my opinion) is a kit gun. Glass bedding and a bit of trigger work and it will shoot under an inch at 100 yards with selected ammo. If you get lucky and get the right batch of milsurp ammo it will also shoot that under an inch.

Now if Savage made the Stevens 200 in 7.62x39 that would be a great gun.
 
C9-Gunner said:
Well .223/5.56 is hard to come by and expensive and same with .308/7.62x51
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.223 is about as readily available as .22 LR or 12 gauge shotshells. And darn cheap to shoot.

C9-Gunner said:
I go against rules sometimes but the storage of flammable/expolsive materials in a complex full of kids. I don't think it's worth it, just a personal opinion.
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Best throw away all your mouthwash and shut off the gas to your furnace too. People worry about the sillyist of things. You wouldn't use a lighter on your highly flammable couch, so why worry about somthing inside a sealed container? Reloading is a very safe, enjoyable pass time. Of course you need to keep safety in mind, but you could hurt yourself boiling a kettle of water or chopping up carrots in the kitchen, too. Safety is good, paranoia is not.
 
C9-Gunner said:
I go against rules sometimes but the storage of flammable/expolsive materials in a complex full of kids. I don't think it's worth it, just a personal opinion.

So, if not the JW-103.
Does anyone know of a good Bolt Action that's somewhat under the $500 price range with "decent" accuracy?
And a Calibre size that won't break the piggy-bank?
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If you're reloading .223 or .308, the powder you use is flammable, not explosive. It's as flammable as about 70% of the materials in your apartment. (the couch, the carpet, your drapes, etc.) I'm presuming 100% of your complex residents have those materials in their suites along with a complex full of kids. The only way powder will catch on fire is if you set it on fire. Modern day smokeless powder doesn't spontaneously catch fire and when stored under "basic" conditions (in a container away from spark or open flame) cannot catch fire. The only other way it will catch fire is if your complex burns down, and that won't have anything to do with you having powder in your suite.

Reloading will drop the price of .223 to 25c and 30c a round, and that's for the first reload. (it will get cheaper until the brass is no longer re-loadable) For .308, it will be around 50c-55c a round. You'll find that you'll be reloading eventually because you won't stand paying almost double for commercial ammo for very long.

As for the JW-103, the 7.62X39 round it shoots is underpowered vs. a 30-30, so anything a 30-30 can drop your JW-103 should be able to drop just below what a 30-30 can. There are threads here of people shooting deer between 100-150 yards with 7.62X39 soft points in their SKS, so a JW-103 should do the trick. You can spend all the time you want at the range practicing with surplus ammo. If you're hitting your 10" gong beyond 100 yards over and over again, you'll be able to drop that deer at the same range with soft point. If you reload, a $40.00 7.62X39 die set and 100 bullets will keep you in hunting ammo for several decades, and you get to control the powder load.
 
Alright, seems like a .223 is the way to go for me plus some work with reloading (I have no clue where to begin with reloading*)

After all this though, my thought is still trying to get a cheap-man's gun for my girl to have fun at the range without her burning a hole in my wallet.
Surplus 7.62 works out to about 15cents each round. (cheap) yes i know...

So as of this moment, I blame my laziness and my poor-man status for not buying reloading equipments and getting a better .223 bolt rifle.

Thank you all for the inputs, it has put me in new light.
Though if anyone around Chilliwack, B.C. who happens to have a JW-103/105, I wouldn't mind testing it out to see.
 
C9-Gunner said:
I go against rules sometimes but the storage of flammable/expolsive materials in a complex full of kids. I don't think it's worth it, just a personal opinion.
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Consider the hundreds of kilograms of Flammable gasoline in your car parked outside that kids are probably playing around...


pharaoh2 said:
I might reconsider that rifle too, since I was witness first hand last Summer to one exploding in the face of a fellow CGN'r. hopefully he will chime in this discussion at some point.
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I'd love more details on this, and also want to know if this was a reloading mistake or not.
 
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