Norinco M 305 older better??

yes the old ones are better

My personal experience with the new ones is 7 for 7 bad apples for the new shorties. Issues ranging from kabooms, bent op rods from factory, trigger failures, sights falling apart, bad bolts, bad indexing etc.
 
I'm new at this so, please take my info with a grain of salt. The rifle I bought from the Marstar M305/SKS deal looks really good to me. The finish actually looks better than I had hoped for (Considering some of the comments made about it). The rifle stock seems to have some light scratches, but other than that, looks nice.

As for the internals, I had them checked out by a Gunsmith before shooting. He checked the chamber and did a field strip of the rifle. He applied some grease to make the action smooth and told me that it was good to shoot.

I don't really know how to post pictures, but if you would like some specific areas, I could take them and post. But, I guess with all Norinco's, it's a hit and miss with quality.
 
My impression from reading on here..is that the newer ones are getting better. Aside from the odd bad apple..or batch of messed up shorties last year..theyre getting better. I got one from Marstar a few months back.22inch.and no complaints..fit n finish are fine..it operates fine..new usgi wood stock and its beautiful
But I never owned an older one.
 
I had one of each era, and those new Socom 18 are by far the best they did up to now, out of 3 nothing was wrong, finition was great, and i bet they are shooters, only changed the op rod spring guide of each with a SA NM one... JP.
 
LordEvilPepper...Has anybody had as much bad luck as you with the newer rifles?

Ranger -- I now have 3 recent-build shorty M305s, and all 3 are _good_ and require only the most minor tweaks to make them excellent [peening the barrel to tighten the op rod guide, mainly]. I have found the stock rear sight is pretty junky. Two ways to get around that is to replace it with a GI rear sight or parts [available for <$100 from several places] or to simply get it shooting to POA at 200yd and lock it in place.

These rifles wouldn't have the following they do if they were generally bad. Unless you are looking for MOA accuracy, they don't require a pile of work to get working well, and most people's OOBox experience is good. I suggest you buy one and try it out. If it's not quite up to snuff for you, sell the new one to your friend.
 
I had a 2005 for years that I occasionally shot before getting more interested in the platform. It was flawless and I foolishly sold it for a shorty before I really knew the value one way or the other. I've had 3 shorties now that have not lived up to the 2005.
 
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