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Hey there fellow gun nutz! I just bought my first handgun (Norinco M-93). The transfer apparently takes a week (according to the gun store owner) so I'll have to wait patiently. I took the advice of many on this board and started with a .22 handgun, even though my dream is a Glock 22. If anyone has any advice/tips/comments about this .22 it would be much appreciated.
 
Lots of threads on CGN about the M-93. Most agree that it's good value for $150, but has some rough edges, so-so trigger and is picky about ammunition. Next step up is double the price (Ruger MK-III) unless you're going the used route.
 
Sorry to trash your first handgun purchase, but you really do get what you pay for with Norinco. I would have spent a little more cash trying to find a decent used Ruger or Browning. Put it this way, would you buy a Lada, Hugo or Kia automobile.

I know some of us CGN just love the stupid things, but to me they are the bottom, of the bottom of the line. Hey, if that's all you can afford to get into the sport, then do what you have to do. Hope it meets you expectations.
 
happiness is a warm gun said:
Put it this way, would you buy a Lada, Hugo or Kia automobile.

I sure would if I wanted to save up some money for a better, nicer second car. As long as it runs (shoots) then I don't see what the big deal is. I plan to use this .22 as a learning tool to get the handgun basics, and then move on to a larger caliber Glock (which I will have money for after not paying a rediculous amount on a .22 handgun)
 
happiness is a warm gun said:
Sorry to trash your first handgun purchase, but you really do get what you pay for with Norinco. I would have spent a little more cash trying to find a decent used Ruger or Browning. Put it this way, would you buy a Lada, Hugo or Kia automobile.

I know some of us CGN just love the stupid things, but to me they are the bottom, of the bottom of the line. Hey, if that's all you can afford to get into the sport, then do what you have to do. Hope it meets you expectations.
Nice way to welcome a guy to handgunning by dumping on his purchase. I'm sure if he could afford it, he wouldn't have bought one of the "stupid things". How about the next time someone posts about a first time pruchase and getting into the sport, you refrain from being a tool and instead, welcome him to the community. Constructive comments and tips are one thing but your comments are a bit harsh.

Maxable - welcome to the club. I bought a Norc NP22 as my first 'shooter' just to get into the game and I haven't regretted the purchase even once. Lots of folks have shot the M93 with mixed results. It is what it is: an inexpensive plinker that may be a winner or a bit of a lemon. For the price though, it gets you in the door which is all that matters. Enjoy your new toy, make the best of it and start saving for the next purchase!:D
 
Thanks j-man. I have read the other posts and understood that the choice I made may produce a lemon. All i hope is that it will shoot at least a few boxes of .22 rounds! I don't see it getting much use after buying the Glock anyways.
 
Maxable said:
Thanks j-man. I have read the other posts and understood that the choice I made may produce a lemon. All i hope is that it will shoot at least a few boxes of .22 rounds! I don't see it getting much use after buying the Glock anyways.

You'd be surprised......my Ruger 22/45 comes to the range with me everytime I go shooting handguns. I started with a 9mm, then .45, .357, .44 etc....last gun was the .22 and I wish it would have been the first. It's alot of fun shooting tiny little groups with super cheap ammo............:)
 
it's about time someone that actually has one spoke up- i've had one since the first batch came in a few years back ( and i got it from LEVER) and been perfectly satisfied with it, aside from a few ftfs( which most of the time is the ammo) it shoots well- even from the second mag, although it doesn't always feed from it- while it's not my first choice for a beginner( i've been in this game some 30 odd years) it's miles ahead of an old beretta 948, which has fixed sight and really heavy trigger pull- and you want to talk about finiky on ammo, let me tell you that old beretta went through 10 different kinds of ammo before it found 1 it liked- and not the cheap russian black greasy stuff either- i found the norinco likes dynapoints a lot, then federals, and maybe wildcats, although i've had ftfs with both federal and wildcat- usually fixed by just rotating the round so the pin hits a different section of primer- granted it's no ruger, but it's also half the price -
 
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Hitzy said:
You'd be surprised......my Ruger 22/45 comes to the range with me everytime I go shooting handguns. I started with a 9mm, then .45, .357, .44 etc....last gun was the .22 and I wish it would have been the first. It's alot of fun shooting tiny little groups with super cheap ammo............:)

I did the same thing because I already owned six .22 rifles, I fiquired why do I need another .22. My mistake!

I think I paid $325 for my Mk111 22/45, plus $22.00 for a Volquarsen sear. It now has a sweat 2 1/2 pound trigger pull. It's easy to work on and there's a huge after market of parts and other toys you can add, as your budget allows. We have several other more expensive .22 pistols with fancy names in our safe, but the Ruger is just as accurate as any of them. It's the one gun that always come to the range with me. My wife liked mine so much, she bought one.

I would encourage any new shooter to spend as much as they can possible afford or maybe a little bit more on their first .22 pistol. Don't treat like a disposable item because you know it could be a lemon. If you buy something half decent, you'll have it and shoot it the rest of your life. Or until you trade it, which ever comes first. Trust me, even when you get your "Glock", you'll still like to shoot a .22. Especialy if it is an inexpesive tack driver that will out perform any Norinco pistol.

My Avatar photo is 10 shots off hand(two handed) at 25 yards with my 22/45 on a breezy day. I just wish I could shoot groups like that all the time!
 
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Maxable said:
I hear you, but it's hard for a student to save up much for anything, let alone a gun! lol


I know, I didn't mean to trash you personaly. School cost a fortune these days and I can see where your coming from. I don't want to discourage anybody from getting into our sport. Start with your Norc, then work your way up to a nicer .22 when you can afford it.

A Glock will cost you a small fortune in ammo to shoot. Ten to twenty dollars a box for 50 rounds of 9mm these days, unless your into reloading. A brick of .22 is under twenty bucks and that last you few trips to the range.

Good luck and I hope it's good shooter for you.
 
Just as a reference point, today's Ellwood Epps website lists the following for under $300:

RUGER MARK 1 STANDARD SEMI-AUTO .22 LR 152 MM BBL, FIXED SIGHTS VG$179

RUGER MKI SEMI-AUTO .22 LR EXCELLENT $249

BROWNING NOMAD SEMI-AUTO .22 LR 6-3/4" BBL EXCELLENT $269
 
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