Norinco m97 vs. Winchester trench gun

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I am aware that the norinco is a chinese made nock off, but the orginals are a bunch more expensive.

I want to know if the Norinco is capable of firing like the Trench shotty of fame. i.e.: Pull and hold trigger on first chambered round, then pump back to eject spent shell and then pump forward to insert new live round. The trigger is still held back. when the pump is all the way forward, the gun fires. :dancingbanana:

OR did norico "fix" this in the name of public safety?:runaway:

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I have shot both, my father's Norinco and my 2 Winchesters, there were no hang ups with the Norinco but it definitely was not a smooth as my orignals. Having said that maybe the Norinco will be as smooth as the Winchester after it is used for 60 or 70 years! I'm sure the Norinco could be helped along with some carefully polishing of its internals. One bonus for the Norinco's is that they are all solid frame models and you won't have issues with the takedown mechanism going out of spec and getting loose - then you have to screw around trying to find the proper "long draw" adjuster sleeve to remedy the problem (Winchester made a lot less solid frame models than takedown and they are getting scarce and pricey).
 
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The Norc '97 is a poorly finished copy of Winchester's classic design, made from low quality materials. It doesn't even come close to the real deal. A genuine Winchester 1897 trenchgun costs more primarily because of the provenance - it was used in some or all of:

- WWI
- WWII
- the Korean conflict
- the war in Vietnam

I heard recently that some 1897's are still in use by American troops in Iraq - 110 years after the design was first introduced. Much of what you pay for when you buy a Winchester 1897 trench model is the history, the condition of the individual piece, and the scarcity of those in desirable condition.

A field model 1897 in average condition can be had for around $250 - $350 in Canada, so the premium for the trench version is primarily related to collector value and scarcity.

If all you want is a cheap knock off to slam fire - go for it. If you want a piece of history, made to standards unseen since, there's no substitute. Anyone telling you otherwise either has never handled the Winchester, or bought a Norinco and have a bad case of cognitive dissonance (CD is the conflict that occurs in the mind when we know that a thought we hold as a fact is proven false. When this happens, either we dismiss the original "fact", or we discount the new evidence. Otherwise the conflict, or dissonance, causes irrational behavior and even physical disease.)
 
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