Norinco NP-22 (Sig 226 Copy)
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IXLR8 said:
It's a great gun. It shoots well, it's very accurate and no, it doesn't kick. Anyone who claims that it kicks badly has no idea what hand gun recoil is supposed to be like.
It is an exact copy of the Sig P226 and therefore the original German design is there. The only difference between the Chinese and the original is the overall finish quality and the tighteness of the parts fitting together.
The Chinese copy is somewhat looser than the German original but that could be a good thing. Things that would jam a German Sig P226, like dirt, sand, etc., would not do the same to a Chinese copy due to the looser fitment.
As far as the materials, some say that the Chinese make the best steel in the world, which in turn means better gun barrels.
My opinion, buy the gun and put some Sig grips on it (the Chinese ones look really cheesy). You won't regret it.
If you're looking for something cheap, reliable and proven in 9mm, the Norinco NZ-85B (CZ clone) gets good reviews from damn near everybody. Just slap some Hogue grips on it and it's good to go. Here's the reference, non-hotlinked in order to stay within CGN rules:
dubdubdub.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/CZ-NZ-85B.shtm
dubdubdub.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/CZ-NZ-85B.shtm
Declan said:
Actually the Chinese produced a close copy with some differences. The slide is milled steel, but still uses the seperate breech block, which is kind of weird. The guns are a good value, but they won't last near as long as the real thing. I had one of these on the range and it lasted 3 months or about 10,000rds max before the frame rails cracked. A real SIG generally lasts years on the range.
I got my two from http://www.darkinternational.com/ and never had any problems with them. Well, had to replace a spring which got weak with usage, but given the number of rounds I shot through it, it's not too much of a surprise.
I keep on hearing about cracked frames, but I never had any problems. I shoot fairly weak factory ammo through it (115gr Winchester USA) or Wolf reloads for practice, so I don't beat the #### out of it.
Also, some parta of the gun are made out of aluminium, so (a) it's lighter, and (b) that's why the parts aren't so tight, the Al would wear out very quickly if too much rubbing was taking place.
It is, at the moment, my preferred IPSC gun, I'm only upgrading to try out fiber optic sights, and because I want to try shooting in the US (where they don't get Norincos in).
I keep on hearing about cracked frames, but I never had any problems. I shoot fairly weak factory ammo through it (115gr Winchester USA) or Wolf reloads for practice, so I don't beat the #### out of it.
Also, some parta of the gun are made out of aluminium, so (a) it's lighter, and (b) that's why the parts aren't so tight, the Al would wear out very quickly if too much rubbing was taking place.
It is, at the moment, my preferred IPSC gun, I'm only upgrading to try out fiber optic sights, and because I want to try shooting in the US (where they don't get Norincos in).
I recently shot a friends 228 clone, he says he has over 10,000 rds thru it. Nice gun for the price. I have heard of 2 of these guns that have had cracked frames on this board. Marstar ells them ,phone and ask a tec (not a secretary) how many returns they have had.
I was in the same situation as you - I ended up buying the NP-22 as my first handgun last year and I have to say I'm really happy with it. I've put about 1,000 rounds through it with no problems at all. It seems accurate enough, and with it I'm able to outshoot my friends who're using Glocks, SIG's, Baby Eagle's, etc. It was a great buy for the price ($350 + tax, about a third the cost of a brand new SIG P226 or half the price of a used one), though I believe you get what you pay for in overall quality. We'll see if it holds up over time, but I plan on keeping it until it breaks down, or can bring myself to spend more money on a real P226.
If you're wary of sinking $700+ into a first handgun, I'd recommend buying an NP-22 to see if you like handgun shooting. I love it myself, and I've since spent some $ on an H&K USP 40. I have a feeling you won't stop at just one
I've shot mine and interchanged it with a friend's SIG P226 and found absolutely no difference in recoil. The real P226 has a better overall finish and quality, the sights on the SIG are much better, and the trigger is a whole lot smoother, but other than that I didn't notice any difference between the two.
If you're wary of sinking $700+ into a first handgun, I'd recommend buying an NP-22 to see if you like handgun shooting. I love it myself, and I've since spent some $ on an H&K USP 40. I have a feeling you won't stop at just one
motoman said:
I've shot mine and interchanged it with a friend's SIG P226 and found absolutely no difference in recoil. The real P226 has a better overall finish and quality, the sights on the SIG are much better, and the trigger is a whole lot smoother, but other than that I didn't notice any difference between the two.
real sig would be my choice
well i have a few norinco copies of different firearms like 311 ar, m14, 870 shotgun. I had nothing but happiness with these and they shoot well, but i still prefer the real thing. So i would say wait and save up for real sig. I have seen the refurbished ones 226 and everyone was happy with them. They sell like cupcakes. my 2 cents
well i have a few norinco copies of different firearms like 311 ar, m14, 870 shotgun. I had nothing but happiness with these and they shoot well, but i still prefer the real thing. So i would say wait and save up for real sig. I have seen the refurbished ones 226 and everyone was happy with them. They sell like cupcakes. my 2 cents
