Any idea what's in the pipe?.....Main complaint is very soft wood used in the stocks, why they don't use a hardwood I don't know...while not in competition with the rifles they copied from,I find them functional good accurate guns for casual shooting -at a fraction if the price of the original.The JW15 a 'pack packer' is my go- to grouse gun,sort of the 'Cooey ' of today's offerings
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I have owned three JW15s in 24", all were in composite stocks that fit me very well. The first one would put almost any kind of ammo in the same hole, but way right. The rear sight had to be drifted almost out of the barrel to hit center, and at that point was lose and would not hold point; barrel was bent, bent so far I could not move my scope far enough to get it to the bulls eye either. The dealer (Bulls Eye in London) graciously exchanged it; the second rifle had a terible rear sight, and a barrel just as crooked. It to would put all of the bullets in one hole. I contacted the importer/distributor; Bell Outdoor Products, and they asked me to send it directly to their gunsmith. He called me the day he received it and verified that it was indeed crooked, and told me that Bell was sending him a brand-new rifle to verify before it was sent to me. A couple days later he called me and told me it too was the same. Bell sent him a bunch of new rifles, and out of I believe 6, he found one that shot straight, and would group tight.
Out of the three I had in my possession, this one is indeed a keeper, but it also was so tight I could hardly close it. I had to do a lot of spotting in on the bolt. It too had a ####ty rear sight and now has a scope. It shoots so well, I won our last scoped, freehand .22 competition with it!
The rifles are hit or miss, but dealer and distributor support have been above and beyond! I like working on guns, so the hand fitting and tuning is one of the most fun and most interesting parts of owning one, and having some sweat-equity in them makes them more than just a purchase.
Norinco hand guns are much better, but still need a bit of TLC (I have a .45 1911 and a NZ85B in 9mm, and love shooting both!)
^not sure exactly what that question means...but Norinco's can be fairly decent guns for the price. I've had maybe 2-3 of them, a backpacker...and a couple of the 98 clones. (JW25?) They are rough around the edges (some VERY rough...and sharp) but if you like to tinker even a little, they can usually be smoothed out. I wouldn't compare the quality to a Cooey, but I get your meaning...today's "cheap", rough & tumble 22s. I wouldn't say they enjoy the same popularity, nor are they as wide-spread. I also highly doubt they'd have the same service life either.
I got rid of all of mine, but not because they were problem guns...or had any issues. More a function of free time, or lack of it. When I do find myself with a block of time to shoot, I just want to be doing it with nicer guns. My backpacker used to be my bad-weather/winter beater for long hikes...and I loved it for that.
I have several Norinco's but mainly shoot the JW15 which is a BRNO knockoff. I haven't had any sighting issues with them,but have to scope them anyway,due to my aging eyes.Norinco will never be collectors or bragging rifles,but they fill a niche for 'shooters'.But if you like one,better get it while you can because they seem to make a 'run' of a model, but don't restock it once it's sold out
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Considering that these firearms are for export to a market that strives on inexpensive goods, they have it figured. It's all about material availability, costs and profit.
Nothing quite like a Communist state competing in an Imperialist world.
Norinco wood stocks( with the exception of the JW20 browning knockoff) tend to make 2x4's look good, but a little work with a drum sander and spoke shave removes excess wood and slims them down nicely, then a hard expoxy type sealer such as used on floors results in a much improved stock.I'm happy with the synthetic stocks ,which I fill with NON expanding foam,cheap fix that greatly improves them
Hi Larry,
Feb-Oct of this year. in Ontario. I doubt it, as the barrel would have to be removed, re-crowned, mini-dovetail milled, re-blued.... for the sake of a $219.00 rifle. If I were a gunsmith with a shop and machine tools, I would maybe do one for myself if I really wanted one, but a distributor could not afford to pay me to do it and turn a profit.
I think, and I'm just guessing, that they will be parted out for spares, and the other parts scrapped.
It's my understanding (and I won't say were I heard this) that due to the really shi*y CZ warranty support in the past, that there is quite a market for these parts to CZ dealers for replacement parts.
thanks for the update on that, Meroh.
Regarding the jw-15's, the local canadian tire had them on sale for months at 185.00. The guys behind the counter told me they rarely sold, even at that price. But they finally sold out of them. Mind you, there was lots of bias coming from certain sale folks there (like "Marlin model 60's suck because the jam constantly, consider instead ...."), so perhaps that occurred for the JW-15 too.
Now I'm very curious about this non expanding foam idea. How does it improve a stock? Feel, accuracy, weight balance...?
And what product do you use?
Regarding the jw-15's, the local canadian tire had them on sale for months at 185.00. The guys behind the counter told me they rarely sold, even at that price. But they finally sold out of them. Mind you, there was lots of bias coming from certain sale folks there (like "Marlin model 60's suck because the jam constantly, consider instead ...."), so perhaps that occurred for the JW-15 too.
Now I'm very curious about this non expanding foam idea. How does it improve a stock? Feel, accuracy, weight balance...?
And what product do you use?
Since mine puts every shot in a small ragged hole from a bench rest; I'm not sure that it would make much difference. Fre-floating the barrel would do more, and the foam may stiffen the fore-end.
Likewise, trigger setup is more important as well. You may have to enlarge the opening in the trigger-guard sub-plate to allow the trigger to travel fully forward so you can adjust the trigger set screw. On two of three rifles I had, I would not set up the triggers as this plate was depressing the trigger past the sear release point when I tried to adjust the slack and creep out of it. I enlarged these forward with a file, and was then able to adjust. Once adjusted, make sure the rifle is unloaded, and bang the butt on the floor, if it releases, the trigger is too light. Once adjusted, put locktite on the trigger adjust screw.
jw-15 "shorty"....the only Norc I own and I like it! Handy in the woods and surprisingly accurate.....
What product is that on the buttstock?
jw-15 "shorty"....the only Norc I own and I like it! Handy in the woods and surprisingly accurate.....
Where can one buy a shorty?
there is one used one on the EE
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1650234-Norinco-JW-15-13-quot?highlight=jw-15
Also, Marstar has them in stock at 220
What product is that on the buttstock?
I bought that so long ago I don't recall. Something "###hawk". Got it for a shotgun.
Rimfire ammo would fall thru the loops unless you're strapping 50rnd boxes
. I use it to carry the mags...I've done this to other plastic stocks but surprisingly this Norinco has a decent feel to it. Plastic feels dense and heavy unlike some that feel like water guns....
The stock has a uniqued profile to it. The bottom metal is thick.....but I digress.
BTW, the sling rings on all three were quite ugly; I replaced them with studs on the rifle I now have.
Another Norinco product, the Scorpio EM322, built on Anschutz tooling is near perfect right out of the box, better finish, smooth bolt, good trigger (not adjustable), cheaper mags, and better sights (not great, but much better than the JW). It is a bit heaver, composite thumb-hole stock, and good sling attachments. I put a Williams dovetail peep on it and an old globe front sight I found in a junk box at a dealers, I won our last competition for iron sights, free hand with it. From a bench-rest, it too puts 10 shots in about a 5/16" hole. Even with my old eyes, I shoot as well with it as I do with the scope on the JW15, and the Scorpio is only a 20" barrel compared to the 24" on the JW. The action is as short as a .22 gets and smoother than any other rifle I have ever shot.
I bought that so long ago I don't recall. Something "###hawk". Got it for a shotgun.
Rimfire ammo would fall thru the loops unless you're strapping 50rnd boxes
Thanks; I use the Hunter's Specialties one from Amazon, with 3 outer shotgun-shell loops and an zippered pocket - but I like the idea of 5 shotgun-shell loops and a zippered pocket.
I'm still toying with the idea of filling the shotgun-shell loops with these kind of "containers", for amusement if nothing else:
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Thanks for the review on the Scorpio,I bought one but haven't fired it yet,I see very few reviews on it surprisingly enough. Most guns gave several on u tube
I first tried non expanding foam on a Marlin 795 synthetic stock ,it greatly improved it.The Norinco synthetic stocks do seem to be more robust,I was going to get the thumbhole version of the JW15,but delayed and they were gone
I first tried non expanding foam on a Marlin 795 synthetic stock ,it greatly improved it.The Norinco synthetic stocks do seem to be more robust,I was going to get the thumbhole version of the JW15,but delayed and they were gone
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