Notches on Japanese Arisaka - Urban Myth?

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Recently I acquired a Japanese Type 99 Arisaka. In this case I was buying the story and not the gun. I heard of a marine veteran of WWII who was moving into a home and had to sell his firearms, including this one he said he picked up on Iwo Jima. It was a good story, so I got him to swear out a notarized statement. Not perfect evidence, but the best I could do.

Anyway, the rifle came with two notches apparently cut in the fore stock. The seller said they were "kill notches" and that the Japanese routinely carved them into their rifle stocks.

I am actually hoping this is an urban myth, but does anyone have any info on this?

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Pic below is of my Trimble Nursery made M1 carbine stock (no rebuild markings), on my National Postal Meter rifle. Who knows for what reason ...but they certainly look deliberate.

 
I have no doubt that many of "kill notches" are actually legit, but does anyone actually pay more for that? I doubt it. To me, legit or not, it can never be authenticated, so its just meaningless.
 
I have handled literally thousands of milsurps over the years. I guess every single previous owner was a lousy shot.

I firmly believe "kill notches" are a fabricated story to pull even more money away from the gullible.

No soldier in his right mind (I am sure a few werent) would advertise that they have killed the enemy and risk, during capture, a swift battlefield execution/retribution.

These types of discussions are about as dumb as the "hey I think there is blood on my milsurp from the war".

But hey if you guys are willing to pay extra for this kind of stupidity, let me know. I will put all the notches you want on any of my rifles you want to buy. I will even rub a used tampon all over the gun as well.

Hell, for the extra bucks you guys are willing to pay, I will even jizz on it.
 
i will have to agree with Light Infantry with this one,

and for me to believe the "kill notch" story, i would need a signed and dated document from the solder who was issued the rifle, explaining exactly what the notches were for.
personally i believe those notches could come from the soldier leaning the rifle against something in a very brisk movement.
 
Could be how many times he was shot, or shot at, how many times he #### his pants, how many cows he milked, how many men he had ### with, how many times he took the same hill.....meaningless notches.
 
Light Infantry said:
I have handled literally thousands of milsurps over the years. I guess every single previous owner was a lousy shot.

I firmly believe "kill notches" are a fabricated story to pull even more money away from the gullible.

No soldier in his right mind (I am sure a few werent) would advertise that they have killed the enemy and risk, during capture, a swift battlefield execution/retribution.

These types of discussions are about as dumb as the "hey I think there is blood on my milsurp from the war".

But hey if you guys are willing to pay extra for this kind of stupidity, let me know. I will put all the notches you want on any of my rifles you want to buy. I will even rub a used tampon all over the gun as well.

Hell, for the extra bucks you guys are willing to pay, I will even jizz on it.
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Of course such notches could have any number of reasons for being there. But it seems slightly naive to believe it impossible that some of them may actually have a sinister meaning behind them.

I agree with the idea that they add no value to a particular firearm ....but for people who have an interest beyond simply putting rounds through these old firearms, it is one more interesting part of the firearms possible history.
 
jibjedi said:
Of course such notches could have any number of reasons for being there. But it seems slightly naive to believe it impossible that some of them may actually have a sinister meaning behind them.

I agree with the idea that they add no value to a particular firearm ....but for people who have an interest beyond simply putting rounds through these old firearms, it is one more interesting part of the firearms possible history.
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.Really? A lot of naivety in this thread, and it not where you think it is. Remember this: when you are in a room and everyone is laughing and you dont know why, its most likely you that they are laughing at.
 


These notches are on my 1941 Swiss K31 rifle. Not sure what they mean, but all I know is that there are 9 notches on my stock...
could mean anything, but its likely not kills
 
So out of the multi millions of firearms used by many millions of men during dozens of wars, none of them were ever sick enough to scratch a notch in the stock of their rifle after dispatching one of their enemies ....
 
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