NOW IN 10MM! RUGER LC CARBINE
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Polish-Jack
CGN Regular
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- Kelowna, B.C. Canada
Holding out for NR models.
I don't think Ruger is quite aware at how much of a hit this may be here up north due to our legislative "peculiarities". Although the weight gives me pause (big chunky bolt = heavier than basic AR/Mini), it's still compact enough to easily lash to a pack/canoe/atv/etc. whilst being relatively snag free. But 10 rounds of decently powerful, penetrating pills in a semi auto? Folding stock and simple means to attach a light and optic? Definitely an attractive choice if you wanna stay out of yogi's picnic basket. While I don't see it replacing the ol' 12ga/.45-70 standbys for the Canadian deep woods, it might very well prove to be a very popular camp/fishing/trapping gun.
Lose the tactical forearm and buttstock and give me the basic Ruger PCC and I would be all over this as a decent bush gun. The tactical models of the Ruger are way to heavy including the forearm that makes it overly muzzle heavy. For bush carry the mlok forearm just adds weight and price while the adjustable buttstock just adds price. The 10MM would take care of any bear/cat threats that occupy our wet dreams but would be to much for small game like chickens or squirrels.
Take Care
Bob
Take Care
Bob
And the most important part!
No proprietary mag limited to 5.
Damn they are getting chonky! 7.4lb for the 10mm, 7.1lb for the 45acp. The 5.7 version is 5.9lb, much closer to what I think most people would want. Thats full size hunting rifle sorta weight.
The foreend appears to be removeable. You'll lose some rail but if you're ditching the sights for a small optic that wouldn't matter. Still enough space infront of the trigger guard to hold onto too - there is even some rail there so you can slap on a vertical grip! lol
Plus with how heavy the bolt is that should help with the balance of the gun.
No proprietary mag limited to 5.
Damn they are getting chonky! 7.4lb for the 10mm, 7.1lb for the 45acp. The 5.7 version is 5.9lb, much closer to what I think most people would want. Thats full size hunting rifle sorta weight.
The foreend appears to be removeable. You'll lose some rail but if you're ditching the sights for a small optic that wouldn't matter. Still enough space infront of the trigger guard to hold onto too - there is even some rail there so you can slap on a vertical grip! lol
Plus with how heavy the bolt is that should help with the balance of the gun.
As I recall correctly, the 10mm and .45 bolts would be too large to fit within the PC Carbine receiver according to Ruger. It's not the forearm that's responsible for the increase in weight, that's simply a hollow piece of aluminum with holes in it. It's the massive bolt that's needed to effectively and safely cycle 10mm. It's the big tradeoff for magnum performance of 10mm out of a straight blowback firearm.
10mm blowback guns aren't the nicest things to shoot. Exactly why I have never kept any despite owning all the models I can think of. My only regret is selling an Olympic Arms upper that took me forever to find. I will no doubt try the Ruger out but I expect chonky recoil like all the rest.
Compare how the basic 9MM model balances in your hands. The tack 9MM model weighs 7.3lbs while the Basic Model weighs 6.8lbs. that's a half a lb difference. That half a pound difference is from the aluminum alloy forearm. Handle both. They use the same bolt. The 10MM gun only weighs 1/10th of a lb heavier than the tacki version of the 9MM so the 10MM bolt can't weigh that much more than the 9MM bolt.
I assume there is not much difference in the forearm used in the 10MM vs the 9MM. The aluminum alloy forearm weighs more than the standard polymer forearm which I was referring to. I know you can't compare the two guns exactly since the 10MM is a bit a different design. Are the 10MM guns in Canada yet?
Take Care
Bob
Non restricted and I would be ordering one. Restricted they can keep.
Given you don't see a 18" barreled version on Ruger's website suggests it won't be coming to Canada anytime soon. I can't imagine a market for this carbine in a restricted form. 10MM is not inexpensive to shoot if you don't reload.
Take Care
Bob
The PC Carbine MLOK forend has a very different and rather beefy looking takedown mechanism as compared to the standard model. Additionally, the forend itself seems much longer on the PC Carbine tactical compared to the 10mm LC, somewhere in the realm of double the length. Sadly, no they are not as far as I am aware. I've emailed the distributors to see what plans exist to bring an NR variant to market, but I'm still awaiting a response. I'll post in this thread if/when I get one.
I think they're likely to be classified (if not already) as variants of the 5.7 LC Carbine. Which thankfully was designed well before C21. So we should be good on that front. Just a matter of whether or not Ruger deems it worth it to create an extended barrel version for us.
