NR Beretta CX4 Storm 9mm vs. Just Right Carbine 9mm. Which is better???
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I have both, and I find the Beretta to be better built and more accurate out of the box. The JR has a really sloppy trigger, and you will have to pony up for sights. Both are fun. If you are decide to buy a Glock or a Beretta handgun, your decision may be easier.
Ihad storm in 40 and traded it for jr in 40, the jr is not restricted so l can shoot it legally when not at a range. The storm was a fun little gun and l loved the sound but not terribly practical.
I looked into re-barreling my storm but it was the price of the jr.
I looked into re-barreling my storm but it was the price of the jr.
I have both. The 9mm JR has worked flawlessly for me as has the CX-4.
A few things to consider:
The JR accepts a lot of AR-15 parts including stocks, handguards and the trigger group so you can pimp it out as much as you like. The CX-4 is what it is. There's not much you can add to it if that's your thing. Both use 10 round pistol mags. The Glock mags for the JR might be a bit cheaper than the CX-4 mags.
I found the above comment about the JR trigger interesting
as the CX-4 stock trigger is far worse (probably 8 pounds or more).
Unlike the CX-4 the JR has a lot of metal parts (receiver, handguards, buffer tube, etc.). The CX-4 is pretty much all synthetic except for the barrel.
The JR is far more of pain to clean as you have to remove the stock to get the bolt out. Not a tough job but more labour intensive than the CX-4.
Accuracy wise I haven't noticed any significant difference.
The original JRs had some teething problems, particularly with the 45 ACP versions. These seem to have been resolved, however. I personally have had no problems with mine which is a Gen 2 version. I can't speak from first hand experience but most posts on this board indicate that JR is a good company to deal with and quickly resolves customer service issues. I can't recall seeing any posts about Beretta service. Maybe someone more in the know could chime in on this.
Al Flaherty's had a great deal on the CX-4 at $999 (that's when I got mine) but the price has gone up so now you're looking at about $1100 which comes in around $150-$200 more than the JR. That buys 4 or 5 mags or a lot of ammo.
To be honest I think either one will make you happy. They are two quite different animals so appearance and your personal taste are going to be a big consideration in which you choose.
Just my 2 cents.
A few things to consider:
The JR accepts a lot of AR-15 parts including stocks, handguards and the trigger group so you can pimp it out as much as you like. The CX-4 is what it is. There's not much you can add to it if that's your thing. Both use 10 round pistol mags. The Glock mags for the JR might be a bit cheaper than the CX-4 mags.
I found the above comment about the JR trigger interesting
as the CX-4 stock trigger is far worse (probably 8 pounds or more).Unlike the CX-4 the JR has a lot of metal parts (receiver, handguards, buffer tube, etc.). The CX-4 is pretty much all synthetic except for the barrel.
The JR is far more of pain to clean as you have to remove the stock to get the bolt out. Not a tough job but more labour intensive than the CX-4.
Accuracy wise I haven't noticed any significant difference.
The original JRs had some teething problems, particularly with the 45 ACP versions. These seem to have been resolved, however. I personally have had no problems with mine which is a Gen 2 version. I can't speak from first hand experience but most posts on this board indicate that JR is a good company to deal with and quickly resolves customer service issues. I can't recall seeing any posts about Beretta service. Maybe someone more in the know could chime in on this.
Al Flaherty's had a great deal on the CX-4 at $999 (that's when I got mine) but the price has gone up so now you're looking at about $1100 which comes in around $150-$200 more than the JR. That buys 4 or 5 mags or a lot of ammo.
To be honest I think either one will make you happy. They are two quite different animals so appearance and your personal taste are going to be a big consideration in which you choose.
Just my 2 cents.
I've shot a JR, CX4, Sub2000 and two different HK carbines.
The JR and Sub2000 are both a little crude. They shake rattle and roll to produce more felt recoil, spit a little gas at you and more generally have more stuff going on in your hands than the Berreta and HK carbines. But frankly I found that shooting pistol ammo from a carbine was pretty soft and rather boring. So for pure fun I actually LIKE the JR and Sub2000 MORE than the Berreta or HK carbines. To me the smoother operation and lower recoil of the pistol calibers in a carbine is just too much like shooting a Ruger 10/22. So the extra kick and even the little spray of ejection gas provided by the much more basic JR or Sub2000 provided a feel that there was far more going on with that gun than the smoother and higher priced guns. So for just play around shooting the nod goes to the JR for me. The Keltec was fine but I can't wrap my head around the use of plastic for the main hinge point, catch assembly and breech support around the barrel.
Although I have not shot the Thureon Defense carbine I suspect it would be more like the JR and Keltec than the quiet and smoothness of the Berreta. That's just a guess on my part though.
But that would be only if I were using the guns as casual range toys. Change the use of them over to matches involving putting lots of rounds on targets in a short time cleanly and accurately and the nod easily goes to the Berreta, HK or similar models. In that case the desire for fast accuracy and the least interference from the gun's operation makes the smoother operating and smaller recoil from the fancier guns a big plus feature. But for casual plinking? I just find that the smoothness and lack of recoil makes me feel like I'm shooting a paint ball gun.
The JR and Sub2000 are both a little crude. They shake rattle and roll to produce more felt recoil, spit a little gas at you and more generally have more stuff going on in your hands than the Berreta and HK carbines. But frankly I found that shooting pistol ammo from a carbine was pretty soft and rather boring. So for pure fun I actually LIKE the JR and Sub2000 MORE than the Berreta or HK carbines. To me the smoother operation and lower recoil of the pistol calibers in a carbine is just too much like shooting a Ruger 10/22. So the extra kick and even the little spray of ejection gas provided by the much more basic JR or Sub2000 provided a feel that there was far more going on with that gun than the smoother and higher priced guns. So for just play around shooting the nod goes to the JR for me. The Keltec was fine but I can't wrap my head around the use of plastic for the main hinge point, catch assembly and breech support around the barrel.
Although I have not shot the Thureon Defense carbine I suspect it would be more like the JR and Keltec than the quiet and smoothness of the Berreta. That's just a guess on my part though.
But that would be only if I were using the guns as casual range toys. Change the use of them over to matches involving putting lots of rounds on targets in a short time cleanly and accurately and the nod easily goes to the Berreta, HK or similar models. In that case the desire for fast accuracy and the least interference from the gun's operation makes the smoother operating and smaller recoil from the fancier guns a big plus feature. But for casual plinking? I just find that the smoothness and lack of recoil makes me feel like I'm shooting a paint ball gun.
I have both, the jr is more accurate but not as reliable feeding.The storm is lighter more compact and easer to take down and clean,I like them both if you want a gun to take in the woods when on quading trips or fun gun to throw in the truck I would choose the storm it is more compact and lighter in weight.get a bushnell red dot for it.I always wanted a non restricted storm but by the time you do the barrel conversion it would be $1500.00 so I would grab one of these non restricted storms now and later on get a jr both are very nice guns and alot of fun to shoot.
I looked at the Thureon and thought the square boxy part was ugly, no where near as clean looking as AR top end. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
What l also like about the JR is l play with 40cal open rounds for IPSC so l can run through my cronagraph legally. I have found the JR puts about 200fy/sec above my open gun putting me in the area before taking restricted to range.
What l also like about the JR is l play with 40cal open rounds for IPSC so l can run through my cronagraph legally. I have found the JR puts about 200fy/sec above my open gun putting me in the area before taking restricted to range.
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