I bought a Numrich 24" 10/22 from Ellwood Epps a while ago and installed it. It’s a fantastic barrel and very accurate however I have run into an annoying problem. The gun cycles fine while firing but I get failure to extract when I manually cycle the action in particular when I try to unload the rifle. I double checked to make sure I aligned the extractor groove properly and it good, upon closer inspection I notice that the extractor totally skips over the rim. That leaves me with 2 questions; 1 being how does it extract while firing if the extractor can’t grip the casing, and 2 what can I do to fix this. Right now the only way to clear the gun is to either fire off that round or to use my Leatherman to pry it out
numrich 10/22 barrel issues
- Thread starter GrizzlyLC
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Yes, it is a blowback firearm, so the cases are going to come out of the barrel when fired, with an extractor.
There is something preventing the extractor hook from gripping the rim. Is there a problem with the fit of the extractor cut in the barrel and the extractor? Perhaps there is interference, and the extractor hook cannot reach the rim. It might be necessary to adjust either the cut in the barrel, or the extractor hook.
There is something preventing the extractor hook from gripping the rim. Is there a problem with the fit of the extractor cut in the barrel and the extractor? Perhaps there is interference, and the extractor hook cannot reach the rim. It might be necessary to adjust either the cut in the barrel, or the extractor hook.
I think it may have to do with the cut out on the barrels it self, either its not deep enough or the angle is off for a stock extractor, or it could be a combination of both. its a bummer though i really dont want to have to pull the barrel it was a b!tch getting it in
Tight chamber the drive bands on the lead bullet its self are causing the bullet to stick in the chamber .do you know what the barrel is chambered at . If I recall there are 3or 4 different chamber diamensions for 22LR barrels . Sporter ,Bentz , Match , and one of the older winchester target guns had a chamber with a 2 degree taper .
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If that is the root of the problem, that might cure it. Or the extractor could be modified. I would be inclined to try that first; the extractor is a cheap, easily replaced part.
You could try feeding a round, and then removing it, unfired. See if there are any rifling marks on the bullet. That will tell you if you have a match style chamber.
You could try feeding a round, and then removing it, unfired. See if there are any rifling marks on the bullet. That will tell you if you have a match style chamber.
elimsprint
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There is a very easy solution, just take the mag out before you fire your last round
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The 10/22 is a funny little plinker. When firing the extractor does not extract nor does the ejector eject.
Like mentioned, the Aftermarket chamber will be tighter. When fired, the blowback pushes the case out of the chamber and the edge of the mag tosses it aside.
With your rifle, the extractor is not strong enough to pull the tight case from the chamber when unfired. It probably doesn't even line up right. There are a number of aftermarket extractors that are cheap and will do the job 90% of the time. You can try (good luck) filing things down.
Regardless in my opinion, a aftermarket barrel should be purchased in tandem with a better extractor.
Like mentioned, the Aftermarket chamber will be tighter. When fired, the blowback pushes the case out of the chamber and the edge of the mag tosses it aside.
With your rifle, the extractor is not strong enough to pull the tight case from the chamber when unfired. It probably doesn't even line up right. There are a number of aftermarket extractors that are cheap and will do the job 90% of the time. You can try (good luck) filing things down.
Regardless in my opinion, a aftermarket barrel should be purchased in tandem with a better extractor.
wayupnorth
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i agree that is sounds like the Bentz chamber is tight on the bullet, i wonder...... do you have access to any other rounds?
ones that a bit shorter maybe?
would be a easy test to put in a round that is a bit shorter and see if it pulls it out ok.
if it does then its the tight chamber (which by the way is what you want for accuracy!)
irregardless i would replace the extractor and spring with a good high end one VQ or a Kidd would be the route id go, see if that solves the problem.
if that dosnt do it then get your original out and start using a file on it see if you can tweak it.
id not touch the barrel, its doing what its suppose to be doing.
ones that a bit shorter maybe?
would be a easy test to put in a round that is a bit shorter and see if it pulls it out ok.
if it does then its the tight chamber (which by the way is what you want for accuracy!)
irregardless i would replace the extractor and spring with a good high end one VQ or a Kidd would be the route id go, see if that solves the problem.
if that dosnt do it then get your original out and start using a file on it see if you can tweak it.
id not touch the barrel, its doing what its suppose to be doing.
Pull the barrel free drop a round into the chamber . Does it fully and freely seat all the way into the chamber ? If it requires a bit of help to seat fully the chamber is tight . Pull the round and inspect the bullet for rifling mark or marks from the throat .
So i took the .22 out to shoot this weekend, I chambered a round and extracted to take a look. upon inspection i noticed rifling grooves half way up the shoulder of the bullet. i also tried to manually chamber a round and it wouldnt go in completely unless I let the action go forward. what type of chamber does this?? and would the aftermarket extractor stated above even help the issue?
