Watch the video. One lug at the bolt root.
Oh hells ya! Who else wants one??
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There are two lugs, you did not follow my sarcasm breadcrumb trail. Still it is a Chinesium mystery thing, therefore (?) Wrt action strength etc.
A Spanish Destroyer converted to 7.62x25 will do the same thing. Makes life easier to convert it to handle Tokarev mags though.
Using the original mags is fine, but the bullets need to be seated deeper.
Using the original mags is fine, but the bullets need to be seated deeper.
Very cool
If it was produced by a Chinese factory it would have a Chinese factory stamp instead of a German one, over 1 million unlicensed copies of Gewehr 88 were made at the Hangyang Arsenal near Wuhan between 1895-1944, so there were a lot of Chinese receivers to be found, while the M1 carbine was never produced by the Chinese Arsenal (licensed or unlicensed) and only 361 units were known to have been supplied to the Chinese forces during WW2 by the US, It wasn't until 1966 did the US supplied the exiled Chinese or KMT army in Taiwan with more M1 carbines. production of Gewehr 88 ended in 1899 and production of M1 carbine did not start in the US until 1942, that is a 43 years gap in between the 2 designs, so the likelihood of this rifle came off a an actual production line is nil.
It is a fascinating sample for sure, but without a background story on this particular rifle or other surviving samples, most likely it is just a surplus Gewehr 88 action rechambered and fitted to a M1 carbine stock someone have cobbled together, where, when, and by who is the BIG question.
It is a fascinating sample for sure, but without a background story on this particular rifle or other surviving samples, most likely it is just a surplus Gewehr 88 action rechambered and fitted to a M1 carbine stock someone have cobbled together, where, when, and by who is the BIG question.
I have a Lee-Enfield No.1 Mk5 "jungle carbine". There are lots of these out there so this may be of interest.
It's a nice, light rifle but with its rock-hard rubber butt pad it hurts to shoot full power .303 ammo.
There are probably better rifles out there for hunting, so lets try something else for an 80 year old rifle.
I found a recipe for reduced-load ammo consisting of pulled Soviet 7.62x39 projectiles and Trailboss powder. I loaded some test rounds at 10, 12, and 14 grains under the 124 grains bullets and all functioned well. Sadly, we had gale-force winds the day I could get to the range and I couldn't compare for accuracy.
This summer was very dry and steel-cored ammo was banned for the summer, so further testing stopped. Now that I see this thread, I feel revved-up to continue and find some loads the old girl likes.
It's a nice, light rifle but with its rock-hard rubber butt pad it hurts to shoot full power .303 ammo.
There are probably better rifles out there for hunting, so lets try something else for an 80 year old rifle.
I found a recipe for reduced-load ammo consisting of pulled Soviet 7.62x39 projectiles and Trailboss powder. I loaded some test rounds at 10, 12, and 14 grains under the 124 grains bullets and all functioned well. Sadly, we had gale-force winds the day I could get to the range and I couldn't compare for accuracy.
This summer was very dry and steel-cored ammo was banned for the summer, so further testing stopped. Now that I see this thread, I feel revved-up to continue and find some loads the old girl likes.
Ian takes the gun apart. Having taken apart many g88’s there is not a single g88 part in the gun in question. Nor are the markings really German. For example, they aren’t spelled right.
Unlikely. It would not have been made prior to 1943 when m1 carbines first arrived in china, or after 1958 when china banned most firearm ownership.
If it saw military service it would have been prior to 1949 when the communists largely defeated Chiang Kai-shek.
I think Ian is right that it was likely made by a regional gunsmith as a special order or one-off.
