Old 94 Question???

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Sitkaspruce

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My dad has an old Win 94, manufacture date is 1899. According to the serial number and checking with this link

http://www.savage99.com/winchester1894_dates.htm

It has a 26" octagon barrel, weights a ton....and shoots as straight as I can shoot. It has been hunted a lot and was my dads gun for years while hunting here on Vancouver Island, so it is not pristine, it is a hunters gun.

A couple questions;

Any idea of value, gun is used has very little blueing and has some lite pitting. Action has some surface pits on the outside, but is still smooth and works well. Bore is VG.

This gun is probably 60-70%.

Is this gun worth getting fixed up or should I just leave it alone, as is???

Thanks

Cheers

SS
 
You want market value, that is, what someone would pay for it when advertised so a lot of people knew about it.
I've gone through something very similar to what you describe, prior 1900 and octagon barrel.
The real collectors didn't want mine and I don't think they want yours, either, by how you describe it.
Mine finally sold, at a price which was well above average price for a good pre 64.
People tend to say that if condition is too rough for (real) collectors, then it is just a shooter.
However, there are people out there who just like an old Winchester, sometimes the older, the better.
If it is well advertised, I think there is someone out there who would pay about $600 for an old, shootable Winchester with character. This is assuming everything on it is original with virtually nothing missing and the rust you mention is very minor.
Don't do a thing to it, to "improve" it's condition. That would only lower the value of it.
 
Maybe it is just me, but I don't think I would sell my fathers favorite at any price, because you can't replace it.
As for refinishing it I wouldn't, every mark has a story , maybe you don't know what it is, but that is not important. Keep it well oiled and clean. Go out and shoot it and enjoy it as much as your Dad did. Just my .02
 
I recently sold a 1900 vintage 1894 in 38-55 with the rarer round barrel. It had about half of its blueing left and shot remarkably well and accurately. In the US this gun would likely sell for $2000 but up here more around $1000. I got $950 for mine and was happy to get that. Just keep in mind that your loads should be no higher pressure than factory like Winchester. Dont be putting LeverEvolution rounds thru it. There is an "old Winchester rifles" FAQ section on the Winchester website and they will answer your questions.
Lots of these around though and Canada is a small market. From what I gather you would be expecting about half the US bluebook price up here. You can send to the us but you might end up paying the difference just to get it thru customs after you pay the dealer for all the work he has to do.
 
Sorry guys, not interested in selling, just getting a $$ value for curiosity purposes.

This gun has been in the family for a long time and probably dropped a ton of deer in Saskatchewan before it made its trip to BC.

It will continue to hunt deer and stay in the family.

Thanks

Cheers

SS
 
Yes in early yrs there were slightly more hex barrels than round but hex is a more desireable collecter piece , so round generally are seen more & command less. Bogie says he got a $1,000 for his :eek: the only way a round barrel is worth anywhere close to that is if the reciever still had 1/2 it's original blueing.

What 4831 says above is spot on.
 
senior said:
Yes in early yrs there were slightly more hex barrels than round but hex is a more desireable collecter piece , so round generally are seen more & command less. Bogie says he got a $1,000 for his :eek: the only way a round barrel is worth anywhere close to that is if the reciever still had 1/2 it's original blueing.

What 4831 says above is spot on.
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:eek:Hexagon barrels are very rare, have never seen one on a Winchester rifle in 50 years of collecting.:D Octagon barrels are the classic style for the older lever guns. Guns like the Model 1866 in a round barrel is rarer than octagon.

I agree with H4831 assessment of the value.
 
Sitkaspruce said:
Sorry guys, not interested in selling, just getting a $$ value for curiosity purposes.

This gun has been in the family for a long time and probably dropped a ton of deer in Saskatchewan before it made its trip to BC.

It will continue to hunt deer and stay in the family.

Thanks

Cheers

SS
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I didn't think you intended to sell it.
However, in order to get a value on it, as you asked for, one has to compare it to other similar ones that have recently sold.
That is why I gave a detailed account, just as one would, if he were going to sell it.
Where in Saskatchewan was it.
 
If you want an accurate price then you should post some pics. Those that know the values will not likely give that info till they can see it.
 
Road King said:
:eek:Hexagon barrels are very rare, have never seen one on a Winchester rifle in 50 years of collecting.:D Octagon barrels are the classic style for the older lever guns. Guns like the Model 1866 in a round barrel is rarer than octagon.

I agree with H4831 assessment of the value.
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:D:D:D

That's a habit I somehow gathered many yrs ago, one I cannot seem to break....hex-octagon...same thing, a square with too many sides:rolleyes:
 
bogie said:
If you want an accurate price then you should post some pics. Those that know the values will not likely give that info till they can see it.
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Well avtually he described it fairly well.

Any idea of value, gun is used has very little blueing and has some lite pitting. Action has some surface pits on the outside, but is still smooth and works well. Bore is VG.

This gun is probably 60-70%.


However to be rated as a 60-70% gun it would need to have all the blueing on the barrel & the usual none on the reciever. $5-600 gun IMHO!
What he describes as "very little blueing" & "lite pitting" puts it clearly in a 30% or so gun!

But yep pics do help especially from those that have no clue as to rateing a guns condition.
 
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