older DEWAT is it still OK to own

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Hi;

I read that new DEWAT firearms are more significantly changed to deem them as DEWAT:

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1) 3-caliber-sized holes drilled into barrel at area of handguard
2) Steel rod inserted into abrrel
3) steel rod welded into the chamber and one of the barrel holes
4) Barrel welded to receiver
5) Bolt face cut at 45-degree angle
6) Bolt & follower welded to receiver
7) Hammer welded to bolt
8) Disconnector welded to frame and bolt
9) Magazine has feed lips removed
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So my question is if a person had a older DEWAT that was #### and click is he now in possession of a prohibited firearm?
 
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Was there ever paperwork with dewats? Is there paperwork with a new dewat? If you had a licensed and registered prohib and its dewatted do they list so in the registey? As scrapped or dewatted?
 
the rcmp give letters for new dewatts now, but they didnt at one point, an older friend of mine remembers buying a dewatt sten, the bolt was cut and the barrel had a hole burned through the chamber and receiver with a torch, he played soldiers with it as a kid. once it is a dewatt it is removed from the registry and is no longer a firearm, if you got a gun deactivated, you would get a letter
 
Dewated or not the newer dewats stay in the system . the onus is on the last registered owner. thats why you get the letter. my buddy sold an uzi . it was deactivated 5 years later
they would not give him a permit to transport when he moved . they still had the deactivated uzi in his name . and they wanted proof that he had sold it.
 
Deuce-deuce said:
my first thought was, deee what?

I think if its not a gun and you don't turn it into a gun it still shouldn't be a gun.
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if they have a record of what has been done to it ,it is a criminal offence to alter it . go for it . the lawyers will love you, and the police love trashing houses ,and seizing all your kit, and after 7 years you might get your stuff back not trashed. right in time for the divorce settlement.
 
gaff said:
Dewated or not the newer dewats stay in the system . the onus is on the last registered owner. thats why you get the letter. my buddy sold an uzi . it was deactivated 5 years later
they would not give him a permit to transport when he moved . they still had the deactivated uzi in his name . and they wanted proof that he had sold it.
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Proof of what? Private sales don't require receipts. If it is dewated, it isn't a gun anymore and they can't hold off giving an ATT for lack of proof of sale.

Now if he had deactivated it without telling them, they could refuse to give him an ATT and ask for proof of deactivation. Slightly different story.
 
fenceline said:
Proof of what? Private sales don't require receipts. If it is dewated, it isn't a gun anymore and they can't hold off giving an ATT for lack of proof of sale.

Now if he had deactivated it without telling them, they could refuse to give him an ATT and ask for proof of deactivation. Slightly different story.
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I think you missed the point, if I can clarify:

"5 years after he sold it (the uzi), it was deactivated by the new owner, however the registry still had the previous owner as the "owner of record"... (due to the registry being full of incorrect and obsolete info), so they wouldn't issue the previous owner a transport permit for his remaining guns until he proved that he had actually sold the (now deactivated) firearm to the new owner who had it deactivated.



The registry is mandated by law to keep records of "removed from registration" firearms for no less than 7 years.
 
forget the dewat part...

your 'friend' sold a prohib and FIVE YEARS LATER discovered it was still in his name???

Even the cfc rarely screws up transfers of the evil gunz
 
Klunk said:
forget the dewat part...

your 'friend' sold a prohib and FIVE YEARS LATER discovered it was still in his name???

Even the cfc rarely screws up transfers of the evil gunz
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thats just it . it was not transferred . it was deactivated the RCMP that were taking care of the dewats at the time dropped the ball . or not.
in the end he was the one on the hook.
 
gaff said:
if they have a record of what has been done to it ,it is a criminal offence to alter it . go for it . the lawyers will love you, and the police love trashing houses ,and seizing all your kit, and after 7 years you might get your stuff back not trashed. right in time for the divorce settlement.
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Please quote the law or regulation that prohibits alteration of something that is no longer a firearm. It is an oft-repeated statement but I have never seen anything in legislation that supports it.
 
Gryphon Energetics said:
Please quote the law or regulation that prohibits alteration of something that is no longer a firearm. It is an oft-repeated statement but I have never seen anything in legislation that supports it.
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I'd be interested in seeing this as well.

Suppose a deactivation had been done by bubba at the corner garage with a stick welder.
I cannot see any legal reason why the piece could not be reworked to enhance the cosmetics.
 
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