xcaribooer
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I have heard from a few people now that the older (70's 80's) remington 700's were better than the newer ones. Why would this be.?
older rem 700's better??
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Quality Control, tighter tolerances, more attention to detail, less cost cutting, to name a few. Back then most companies actually gave a s**t, and it wasn't all about the bottom line $$...
It ain't just Rem either...
Look at the first Sako 75's compared to the last ones. They were still good, but the first thing that comes to mind is the thinner barrel on the later ones. I wouldn't classify that as a quality issue though? Maybe guys complained on the weight? I for one liked the better balance of the slightly heaver barrel. The finish on the Finnlights marked real easy and looked old quickly. Companies try to keep costs down and cut corners. Quality has really slumped because of this! My $.02xcaribooer
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I have an 80's ADL 30-06 on the way to me in the mail very soon and my eye on my brother in laws early 70's BDL 30-06 ..if he decides to ever sell it.
I will use the ADL as is for now but am thinking it will make a good platform for a custom rifle someday.
I will use the ADL as is for now but am thinking it will make a good platform for a custom rifle someday.
My old 700's from the late 70's aint going nowhere.
The last 700 I bought cycled like a rusty garden gate dispite it's 1200 dollar price tag.
Not to say that there wasnt the odd issue with them back in the old days but there seems to be a lot more these days then back then.
The last 700 I bought cycled like a rusty garden gate dispite it's 1200 dollar price tag.
Not to say that there wasnt the odd issue with them back in the old days but there seems to be a lot more these days then back then.
I have a 1965 700 in 22-250 that shoots as good as any rifle Ive ever shot. As far as accuracy I have never had a Rem 700 that left me wanting more accuracy out of it, once I had time to play with a few bullets and powders (which is the fun part), and I have owned probably 18 or so in the past few years.
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Ditto ... but just over half a dozen.
A 2004 Mod.700 CDL in 25-06 shoots with as much accuracy
as I can use - cover groups with a dime at 100 and with a loonie at 200.
An older 257 Mountain and a 223 VLS are up next for load development.
Not expecting problems from either - and no complaints on fit or finish either.
mike shickele
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This is one of those loaded questions. You will get those who will buy nothing but Remingtons saying that there has been no change over the years, and you will get others who for one reason or another will say that they where once good guns, but have now turned into complete junk. I will not bring those that have always, and will always hated Remington.
I personally think that thee overall quality hasn't changed, but that the fit and finish isn't as good, and that's saying something, because the fit and finish was never great. Remington didn't keep up with the market on this as you can now pick up a savage for less money than a comparable Remington that has viably less tool marks, and a smoother bolt throw.
Mike
I personally think that thee overall quality hasn't changed, but that the fit and finish isn't as good, and that's saying something, because the fit and finish was never great. Remington didn't keep up with the market on this as you can now pick up a savage for less money than a comparable Remington that has viably less tool marks, and a smoother bolt throw.
Mike
Rem 700 QC
My first new 700BDL in 7mm rem mag was bought in 1983. It was pretty well built overall. A really teeny tiny bit of weld splatter on the jeweled bolt, and the brass cross pin through the sides of the stock were peened off in the most ugly of fashions visible for all the world to see the questionable craftsmanship, but overall the gun was pretty well done, and it was accurate!!
My latest 1/2 dozen Remingtons over the last year were quite abysmal with important bits that fall off, much like my last pos Ford Exploder that must have been built on a Monday. Unfortunately, as luck would have it in my case, it seems that every day is Monday at the Remington plant.
Scope base holes very badly misaligned so mounted scopes point out somewhere wherever other direction was not straight forward, extractors that fail to extract, bolt faces improperly machined overly large, poor stock finish, binding and galling bolts, loose barrel to receiver nuts in the semis and autos, and the beat goes on, but I must say, the accuracy out of the 700s was never something I could complain about even with the sloppy builds of late.
I've now firmly switched to Sakos for my serious off the shelf bolt guns and I just will NOT go back to try yet another pos Remmy. I work very hard for my money and refuse to continue to give it to a company all too willing to give me garbage in return.
My first new 700BDL in 7mm rem mag was bought in 1983. It was pretty well built overall. A really teeny tiny bit of weld splatter on the jeweled bolt, and the brass cross pin through the sides of the stock were peened off in the most ugly of fashions visible for all the world to see the questionable craftsmanship, but overall the gun was pretty well done, and it was accurate!!
My latest 1/2 dozen Remingtons over the last year were quite abysmal with important bits that fall off, much like my last pos Ford Exploder that must have been built on a Monday. Unfortunately, as luck would have it in my case, it seems that every day is Monday at the Remington plant.
Scope base holes very badly misaligned so mounted scopes point out somewhere wherever other direction was not straight forward, extractors that fail to extract, bolt faces improperly machined overly large, poor stock finish, binding and galling bolts, loose barrel to receiver nuts in the semis and autos, and the beat goes on, but I must say, the accuracy out of the 700s was never something I could complain about even with the sloppy builds of late.
I've now firmly switched to Sakos for my serious off the shelf bolt guns and I just will NOT go back to try yet another pos Remmy. I work very hard for my money and refuse to continue to give it to a company all too willing to give me garbage in return.
