Olympic Arms are the bottom of the barrel; none cheaper, or more cheaply made. They are cast, stay away; nuff said. It's like drinking, Maddog 20/20 will get you drunk just as a good Scotch will, but are you seriously going to drink Maddog 20/20? If all you can afford is an Oly, then you need to save up. Don't do an AR half-a*sed. It's just not right.