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I finally decided to go see my daughter in New Zealand with the opertunity to go hunting deer. How does one go about traveling with a firearm overseas? What paper work is required ? Would anyone have a link or info ? I'm looking at going next year for there fall season meaning end of February / beginning of March ish...
Also, can I travel with ammunition on my trip or do I have to purchase in NZ ?
Thanks for any info...:)
Oh, I did do a search on this to NZ with no luck....
 
You need a temporary export permit from the Canadian government for rifles and for scopes. The required paperwork is spelled out exactly in the African Hunting forum, I have found that forum a wealth of info for the travelling hunter. You do have to join their group to get to the good stuff. Not sure about the NZ regs, also be aware that airlines make up their own rules, and each one a little different.
 
I have been hunting in New Zealand several times. You will not be disappointed. It is a VERY hunter friendly country. All the paperwork you need to bring a firearm and ammunition into NZ, can be filled out on-line (see below).

Fly Air New Zealand if you can, I think they still fly direct to Auckland from YVR. Air Canada has very strange and convoluted policies. Most airline employees are clueless when it comes to firearms in checked baggage. However you decide to fly, just fill out all the forms, answer silly questions with patience, and it will all work out fine.

This extract from website of the guide I used (Telford Fishing and Hunting: https://flyfishhunt.co.nz):

FIREARMS LICENCES
New Zealand is a ‘hunter friendly’ destination but you will require a firearm import permit if bringing a firearm into the country.

Research the New Zealand Police website by looking up ‘Visitor’s firearms licence and import permits’.

The Visitors Firearms Licence and Permit to Import Firearms can be completed online. Refer to https://forms.police.govt.nz/firearms/visitors-application

Upon arrival into New Zealand you will collect your firearm at the luggage claim. Please ensure you have $NZ 25.00 in New Zealand dollars CASH to release your firearm.
 
This is very helpful Guy329. Unfortunately I will have to travel Air Canada because I'm using my Aeroplan points.

Just another question, when traveling did you have a heavy duty gun case ? I have an aluminum gun case but might not do the job.
Thanks for all the info...
 
Before you go or while your planning look up Red Stag Hunting in New Zealand.
There are some fantastic hunting blogs on ewe toob showing the country and the game animals.
No idea on costs, but it is tempting.
Say hello to Golob when passing through Middle Earth too
Rob
 
You're welcome. Air Canada will get it all there, just sillier than other airlines. Any hard case should be fine. If you can takedown your rifle and pack in a smaller (less rifle looking case) thats better, but not really necessary.

Most hard cases are sufficiently sturdy. If it gets mishandled badly, there is no case (or the rifle inside) that is going to stand up to severe abuse, but I've never had any issues. The good news is that your rifle case will be tagged differently and will be handled separately, so I think that might(?) give it a better chance of safe arrival.

By the way, when you land in Auckland, after you pick up your bags (including rifle) and before you leave the baggage claim area, there is a tiny police booth along the wall, that is usually unmanned. There is a phone on the wall, pick it up and tell whomever answers where you are and you'd like to see a police officer about importing in a rifle to hunt. Then stand there until a friendly officer shows up, looks you over, examines the gun, takes $25 NZD cash (don't forget to get the cash before you board in Canada!), and you're on your way.

The game animals in NZ (Red Stag, Tahr, Chamois, Fallow Deer, wild pig, etc) are all introduced species (over the past 150 years or longer?) and are considered feral invasive species, and even most of the lunatic left supports hunting them, I think because they compete for habitat with native wildlife. They are all well established and there are no predators. There is no specified hunting season, no bag limits, or any other typical restrictions, because there are just so many animals. The challenge to hunt them, is the country is very rugged and the good animals are typically in remote areas that are difficult or time consuming to get to, and require physical stamina to be successful (unless you are old and fat and can afford to rent a helicopter, or you want to shoot an animal in a fenced off 'cage', neither of which appeals to me, and both those options, while available, are very expensive). I trained for a year specifically for a NZ hunt and it really paid off. Your daughter might be able to arrange and easier hunt, as she like knows locals and that can be very helpful. Have Fun!
 
Just another question, when traveling did you have a heavy duty gun case ? I have an aluminum gun case but might not do the job.

Pick your gun-case as if you expected someone to body-slam it 20 times and throw it a few more. Expect a similar treatment on the way home. That's not an exaggeration.

The bar is set at the Pelican case. There are some that are the exact same thing with a different name, and there are plenty that cost more. Cheap out at your peril. I use a Pelican and an Explorer. The Explorer was a couple inches longer and a good bit lighter, which matters when you start hauling a couple 30" heavy barrelled long range rifles or a couple African heavy rifles. You don't want to go over-weight, or under-cased.
 
The slickest trick I saw was 2 guys boarding in Zambia and they had their rifles in soft cases inside a locking hard golf bag travel case. I bet their rifles didn't get nearly as abused as my obvious rifle case did.........
 
Pick your gun-case as if you expected someone to body-slam it 20 times and throw it a few more. Expect a similar treatment on the way home. That's not an exaggeration.

The bar is set at the Pelican case. There are some that are the exact same thing with a different name, and there are plenty that cost more. Cheap out at your peril. I use a Pelican and an Explorer. The Explorer was a couple inches longer and a good bit lighter, which matters when you start hauling a couple 30" heavy barrelled long range rifles or a couple African heavy rifles. You don't want to go over-weight, or under-cased.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-e96m4730
Nothing tops these guys....
Rob
 
As mentioned, Air Canada will get it there, but in my experience it will cost you more. They seem to nickle & dime you when travelling with firearms.
 
...How does one go about traveling with a firearm overseas? What paper work is required? Would anyone have a link or info?

In general, both temporary and permanent exports of either Restricted, Non-Restricted, or Prohibited firearms to countries other than the United States must be authorized in advance with an export permit.

<http://www.international.gc.ca/controls-controles/firearms_armes_a_feu/other-autres/license-demande.aspx?lang=eng>

Temporary Export for a Hunting Trip

In addition to the general information, please be aware of the following instructions.

An export permit is required in order to take hunting firearms and related magazines, riflescopes and ammunition outside Canada. You should provide the following with your application:

A cover letter outlining the dates of travel and nature of the export (temporary) and some type of confirmation of your travel and its purpose (e.g. booking confirmation or invitation letter issued by your outfitter, flight itinerary, etc.). The letter should also state that the export is being made for personal use on the hunting trip and that the exported articles will return to Canada.

Confirmation that you have import authority to bring your firearms into the foreign country, or a statement that you will arrange for such permission at the time of import at your destination (your outfitter might be able to assist you).

Some countries now require the presentation of a valid export permit as a pre-condition for their issuance of an import permit. Not having a Canadian export permit in your possession at the time of import to a foreign country may lead to travel delays and/or confiscation of your firearm.

In filling out your application, please note the following:

You will be exporting the goods to yourself to the foreign address of your outfitter. The consignee information should be listed as: your name, “Care of” the name and address of your outfitter.

When listing ammunition on your application, indicate the correct calibre, unit of measure, quantity and unit value where required. An example of a description of ammunition might be "375 H&H calibre sporting ammunition.” Ensure that the noted unit value correctly reflects the unit of measure used. Generally, quantities and values are stated “per box” or “per cartridge”.

You are required to provide your self-assessment of the Export Control List numbers that apply to your export. In this scenario, exporters commonly use the following:
Firearms: ECL Item 2-1.a
Optical weapons sights (riflescopes): ECL Item 2-1.d
Additional magazines: ECL Item 2-1.d
Ammunition: ECL Item 2-3.a.

<http://www.international.gc.ca/controls-controles/firearms_armes_a_feu/permit-licence.aspx?lang=eng#b>

Q10. I want to take my firearm hunting or to a shooting competition to a country other than the US.

A10. The temporary export of firearms requires an Export Permit from Foreign Affairs and Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development Canada (DFATD). Blank applications are available by calling (613) 996-2387 or by faxing your request to (613) 996-9933. The need for an import authorisation from the destination country is waived. Conditions attached to the temporary Export Permit require that the firearm be returned to Canada and that proof of such return is reported to ITCan. Canadian exporters wishing to take their firearms into another country should ensure that their plans are in keeping with the firearms law of the destination country.


<http://www.international.gc.ca/controls-controles/firearms_armes_a_feu/other-autres/faq.aspx?lang=eng#n10>

N.B.: In addition to the 'export permit' (to allow you to take your stuff out of the country), which will stipulate that you must bring all your stuff home with you (when you return), you'll also need an 'import permit' (to allow you to bring your stuff home again). Separate forms, separate bureaucrats, extra delays, extra PITA. (That's 'PITA', not 'PETA'. ; ) )

Global Affairs Canada
Export and Import Controls/Controlled Products/Firearms, Related Goods and Ammunition

<http://www.international.gc.ca/controls-controles/firearms_armes_a_feu/index.aspx?lang=eng>
 
When I was flying with firearms, I looked at my hardside case and decided it wasn't stiff enough. Even though it is hard plastic, I trimmed 1/4" Masonite to nestle between the foam and plastic on the 6 sides. Straps and duct tape kept the halves from shifting.

When you pack be very careful you haven't forgotten a live round in a pocket or corner of a bag. Happened to me once! Fortunately I had some tie wraps in my side pocket, so I could resecure the zippers on that bag.

If you are a veteran or serving military, double check with the ticket office for free bag(s). Your gear is going to be especially heavy, and could be quite expensive at check in. Regardless of how many bags you have, check for dimension and weight limits. Be prepared to shift contents between bags to keep from breaking some baggage handler's back.
 
Wow, lots of good advise. I better start doing my homework.
I'm heading to the South Island and as for the hunt, my daughter already has a friend lined up for hunting. So from I understand, the gun case will be worth more then the rifle:p anyway thanks for all the info...
 
I finally decided to go see my daughter in New Zealand with the opertunity to go hunting deer. How does one go about traveling with a firearm overseas? What paper work is required ? Would anyone have a link or info ? I'm looking at going next year for there fall season meaning end of February / beginning of March ish...
Also, can I travel with ammunition on my trip or do I have to purchase in NZ ?
Thanks for any info...:)
Oh, I did do a search on this to NZ with no luck....

Bro, NZ is THE most welcoming Country for Hunters~~

Enjoy the #### out of it!!!!

Cannot help from Canadian end but mostly in Aus we go VIA Customs and its a 6 week paper work a few permits and Bobs yer uncle!!

Go shoot some seriously awesome Critters!! Tahr...................... Red stag................ Chamois........... find a back country pig perhaps.................

watch for ssss oh wait... they are the lucky country.
you can stumble out of the Shearing shed pissed as a maggot, fall over, pass out and wake up Alive.................... try do that in Oz and you get bitten by snake an spiders an do it elsewhere in the world AKA Canada.... a Bear will eat ya

oh man, I luv nz.

if u r stuck for rifle options, I know a few dudes with big hearts, may help you out.....
 
Bro, NZ is THE most welcoming Country for Hunters~~

Enjoy the #### out of it!!!!

Cannot help from Canadian end but mostly in Aus we go VIA Customs and its a 6 week paper work a few permits and Bobs yer uncle!!

Go shoot some seriously awesome Critters!! Tahr...................... Red stag................ Chamois........... find a back country pig perhaps.................

watch for ssss oh wait... they are the lucky country.
you can stumble out of the Shearing shed pissed as a maggot, fall over, pass out and wake up Alive.................... try do that in Oz and you get bitten by snake an spiders an do it elsewhere in the world AKA Canada.... a Bear will eat ya

oh man, I luv nz.

if u r stuck for rifle options, I know a few dudes with big hearts, may help you out.....

Looking forward to the hunt and seeing what type of critter are inline for my hunt. Thanks for the offer but I have my heart set on using one of my rifles for the NZ trip. This could be the beginning of many future trips...
 
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