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basicbill

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Hi,
I almost have my RPAL. I want to purchase a M&P9 for my first handgun.
I can save about $70 buying it online.

My problem is this....

I have a street number but I live in the country about 15 km out of town. I have had CanadaPost deliver parcels to my door before; so I know that it can be done.

However, if I'm not home, I will have to go to pick it up at the postal outlet in town.

Do I need an ATT to get it from the postal outlet to home?
 
Not this question again! Some people will tell you, you need an att no matter what, some will say no because you do not know what is in the package! I'm not getting into this one.
 
Since I just posted about your other question, and it sounds like we're in similar boats, here's what I found on the RCMP website and it's good enough for me:

Q. Do I need authorization to transport my firearms from one location to another?

Any time you personally transport a restricted or prohibited firearm within Canada, you need an Authorization to Transport (ATT) from the Chief Firearms Officer of the province where the firearm is located or where it will be entering Canada. You do not need an ATT for firearms that are being shipped by licensed carrier or for non-restricted firearms that you are transporting yourself.
 
This is a slippery question, so I'll give you the Coles Notes version;

Yes, you do. It's a restricted weapon, and you're not a licensed carrier

OR

No, because it's a parcel and you cannot know with certainty what's in it. Since police cannot open mail without a warrant, and no judge will issue a warrant without reason, there's no way for law enforcement to actually enforce it. DISCLAIMER; I do not have any references for case law that this has been proven.

OR

Call a Taxi. You're not driving, cop doesn't ask you any questions.
 
One of the issues with forums like this is....people don't do a good job of titling or describing their threads. I search for the information that I'm looking for but there are too many titles like 'newbie question' and 'help me' that give little or no indication of the subject. I try to be a bit more descriptive...to help others when they search.

I'll try to find the epic threads of which you speak.
 
basicbill said:
One of the issues with forums like this is....people don't do a good job of titling or describing their threads. I search for the information that I'm looking for but there are too many titles like 'newbie question' and 'help me' that give little or no indication of the subject. I try to be a bit more descriptive...to help others when they search.

I'll try to find the epic threads of which you speak.
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Here is the last of the series, this will get you started. Read through.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=723895
 
zelly said:
no att to pick it up from mail , open at home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wrong and illegal

Dukkake said:
Since I just posted about your other question, and it sounds like we're in similar boats, here's what I found on the RCMP website and it's good enough for me:

Q. Do I need authorization to transport my firearms from one location to another?

Any time you personally transport a restricted or prohibited firearm within Canada, you need an Authorization to Transport (ATT) from the Chief Firearms Officer of the province where the firearm is located or where it will be entering Canada. You do not need an ATT for firearms that are being shipped by licensed carrier or for non-restricted firearms that you are transporting yourself.
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If you pick it up at the post office it is no longer being shipped by a licensed carrier.

So you need one.

Read the other threads there are numerous things in the firearms act, canadapost act, and the criminal code that say you need one.

Shawn
 
3strokes said:
you just did.............:d
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shawn said:
Wrong and illegal



If you pick it up at the post office it is no longer being shipped by a licensed carrier.

So you need one.

Read the other threads there are numerous things in the firearms act, canadapost act, and the criminal code that say you need one.

Shawn
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Fair enough...but then he better put the package on the counter, open it up, PROVE & ACTS the firearm in full view of everyone, and apply secure locking devices to both the gun and non-transparent case.

After all, we don't want to break to break the criminal code.

Serious question here: How do we pick up a restricted firearm (knowingly) without breaking any of the transport laws?
 
I can see why you guy mention that this topic comes up often. The law can be argued either way.

Are there any cases where someone has been charged while transporting a sealed parcel, with a restricted inside?
 
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