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Hi,
Im new to the forums and I am waiting for my test results to get stamped so I can begin the process to get my Restricted/Unrestricted license. What I wanted to know before I get licensed and purchase a handgun is peoples personal experience with owning a handgun. I am particularly interested in hearing from individuals living in the GTA. Are there really random checks on storage of your firearms? Are you really on the radar when you are on the gun registry for restricted firearms?

Thanks in advance
 
There are only random checks if you are a criminal. Otherwise they will call and make a convenient appointment. You of course have the option to refuse and tell them to get a warrant. They will either not both or they will get a warrant and will most certainly find something wrong (I would imagine). The only officers that can inspect are those who are designated as firearms officers. If they want to inspect your storage, ask them for an email address and you can forward them a couple pictures of your secured storage, to save them the trouble of coming out.

Once you have a firearms license you are on the Radar, once you have an unrestricted you make a few more pings on the radar, once you have restricteds you make a few more pings on the radar. Only the criminals who own firearms are on no ones radar and never have to worry about it. When I bought my first handgun way back when, the firearms officer had to come and inspect my storage before the ATT was issued for me to bring it home. This is not the case anymore I think since there are far more handgun owners now then when I bought mine. They would need a whole department just for this one purpose.

In any event, you have access to all the safe storage requirements, there really is no need to not comply with them, so just be good and you shouldn't have any problems should an inspection be required.
 
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First of all, welcome to the sport, and to the club.

Once you purchase and own a restricted, you are definitely on the radar.

However, this is not necessarily a bad thing. The RCMP, CSIS and OPP have done their background checks on you and cleared you, so this is a good thing.

The bad things are:
1. Anytime someone just calls and complains about you to the local LE (with or without just cause), the registry immediately comes up showing you own guns and that can be a bad thing.
2. When you get pulled over for a traffic violation, again the registry comes up showing the same thing and that can also be detrimental.

In my experience though, the local LE treat you with more respect if you get pulled over. You will get the occasional young rookie LE who does not have his PAL, and start playing the power game.
 
There isnt enough staff to process registrations and licenses, let alone to do spotchecks on your house. They will only go after those who have huge collections, lots of prohibited, or if they recieve complaints, and i believe in all circumstances they must notify you and arrange a time, giving you plenty of notice to ensure your compliant if your not fully versed in the law.

Don't let the legal hiccups weigh you down getting into the community
 
newbie said:
2. When you get pulled over for a traffic violation, again the registry comes up showing the same thing and that can also be detrimental.
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not as far as I know, this is not an automatic thing that happens, the LEO must request this info specifically

I have been pulled over a few times, random stop checks, and once for speeding, and not once did any of the LEO's make any mention of me being a firearms owner, and the time I did get pulled over for speeding my car was full of my firearms ( I was on my way to the range ) and not a single word from the LEO to look at, inspect, what am I transporting, etc, with regards to firearms, his entire conversation was around the reason of why I was going so fast, and was I aware of my speeding.

In the years I have been a firearms owner, both restricted and non restricted, not once has some one come to the home, or called the home, with regards to my hobby.

Then again your mileage might vary.....but I doubt it
 
In the gta the cops are bigger pricks about firearms than other leo i have encountered. Especially if you are a 20 year old like me.

They can only do spot checks by making a app with you. You can decline if you want. I have a welcome mat in the porch of my house that says " COME BACK WITH A WARRANT" lol.

It's okay to be on there radar as long as you are doing nothing wrong.

Now living in the gta i suggest locking up your firearms good, especially if you live in a ghetto part like me. Not because of the firearms laws, but because you don't want scum breaking in and stealing your hard earned goodies.
 
Avalonthas said:
There isnt enough staff to process registrations and licenses, let alone to do spotchecks on your house. They will only go after those who have huge collections, lots of prohibited, or if they recieve complaints, and i believe in all circumstances they must notify you and arrange a time, giving you plenty of notice to ensure your compliant if your not fully versed in the law.

Don't let the legal hiccups weigh you down getting into the community
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That's because the CFC's annual budget is only 4 million.
 
Vincentk said:
In the gta the cops are bigger pricks about firearms than other leo i have encountered. Especially if you are a 20 year old like me.

They can only do spot checks by making a app with you. You can decline if you want. I have a welcome mat in the porch of my house that says " COME BACK WITH A WARRANT" lol.

It's okay to be on there radar as long as you are doing nothing wrong.

Now living in the gta i suggest locking up your firearms good, especially if you live in a ghetto part like me. Not because of the firearms laws, but because you don't want scum breaking in and stealing your hard earned goodies.
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Cops don't come to your home to do spot checks, this is done by the CFO, and upon a mutually agreed upon date and time

and typically for Collectors of firearms

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/restr-eng.htm

Permitted Purposes For Owning A Restricted Firearm

There are a few purposes for which you can be licensed to acquire and/or possess a restricted firearm, the most common being target practice or target shooting competitions, or as part of a collection.

In limited circumstances, restricted firearms are also allowed for use in connection with your lawful profession or occupation, or to protect life.

Exception: If you have a firearm that is registered to you as a relic under the former legislation, you may continue to possess it for that purpose. However, you cannot pass that designation on to the next owner. The next owner can acquire the firearm only for one of the purposes referred to above.

As set out in the Firearms Act, a relic firearm is one that is of value as a curiosity or rarity, or that is valued as a memento, remembrance or souvenir.

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Criteria For Each Purpose

Depending on which purpose you select, there are some specific criteria you have to meet, as follows.

Target Shooting Practice and Competition

To be authorized to have restricted firearms for target shooting purposes, you must provide proof that you practice or compete at an approved shooting club or range.

For more information about approved shooting clubs and ranges, contact your provincial CFO by calling 1 800 731-4000.

Collectors of Restricted Firearms

To be authorized to have restricted firearms as part of a collection, you must:

* Know the historical, technical or scientific features of such firearms in your collection
* Consent to occasional inspections of the place where your collection is stored
* Comply with regulations dealing with safe storage, record-keeping and other matters related to restricted firearms

Employment Purposes and Protection of Life

In limited circumstances, an individual may be authorized to possess and/or acquire a restricted firearm for employment purposes or for protection of a life.
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