Ontario Turkey
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canadian hunter312
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100% cash grab. they talk about the stupidest things and when i went for mine 5 or more years ago i was so damned pissed off i couldnt wait to get out of there. i assumed they were actually going to teach me something but it was just all stupid crap that any person with common sense already knows.
yet another example of legally robbing people of their money
yet another example of legally robbing people of their money
turkey course
Not too sure I agree with you on this one. I personally think that there was a lot of really good information in the course. I taught me about diferent calls and what works well and what doesn't. I also learned ALOT about the hard work that it is to keep the turkeys going. I think that it's pretty poor taste to say it's a waste of time.... I go to the NWTF dinner in Aylmer and find that to also be a very good way to learn as well. 35bucks is really worth it to keep some hunting heritage alive and I think that we should all consider that.....
canadian hunter312 said:100% cash grab. they talk about the stupidest things and when i went for mine 5 or more years ago i was so damned pissed off i couldnt wait to get out of there. i assumed they were actually going to teach me something but it was just all stupid crap that any person with common sense already knows.
yet another example of legally robbing people of their money
Not too sure I agree with you on this one. I personally think that there was a lot of really good information in the course. I taught me about diferent calls and what works well and what doesn't. I also learned ALOT about the hard work that it is to keep the turkeys going. I think that it's pretty poor taste to say it's a waste of time.... I go to the NWTF dinner in Aylmer and find that to also be a very good way to learn as well. 35bucks is really worth it to keep some hunting heritage alive and I think that we should all consider that.....
I sat threw another turkey course, 5 people failed and were allowed to rewrite the test, I think that’s BS. It's nice to know were hunting with people who can't answer some simple questions after been giving the answer the same day.
They should have been made to book another course and maybe next time they would learned something. I guess there not worried about safety.
They should have been made to book another course and maybe next time they would learned something. I guess there not worried about safety.
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LeePeterson said:
Yes I agree with you, that is scary! They definately should have had to do the course over again at a later date. IMHO I found the test to be very simple & easy to pass. I am pretty sure I got 100% on it. All 300+ people in my course passed. It just makes me more glad I'm hunting private land only! Only 2 days left until Ontario turkey season opens. Good luck to everyone.
canadian hunter312
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mmckaig said:
mayeb it was just the instructors then as i heard alot of complaints that day. at the time i was only 16 or so and i didnt even learn anything. i learnt more in the 15-20 minutes that i was talking to other guys than i did in the course that took hours to complete.
glang1 said:
Right you are. If we are sending "new" hunters out to shoot in our forrests, should they not be fully trained in all aspects of hunting? And if the deer and moose and bear and squirrel and grouse and partridge and duck all can be taught under the same (book) cover, can we not add Turkey to that list??
Why segregate the Turkey if not to add just one more way to make someone a few extra thousand $$? What we're saying here is that the Feds make the gun laws, the Province and communities make the shooting laws, the MNR makes the hunting laws, but because the OFAH found some stray turkeys and helped them immigrate, they now have the same power as Government?
That's my BIG issue. Let's put the responsibility of this training in the hands of the people who are ultimatly going to police this sport. That's all.
Just an opinion. That, and a $1.25 gets me a medium double double at Timmy's.
Thanks
Blackthorne said:
Then get the MNR to do the training. Their CO's will police this sport anyway. They should be teaching it to their letter of the law. As for funding and financing, I bet if they see how much they can make on new hunters, they just may start to direct some of these earnings into better forced migration of the bird so that EVERYONE in Southern and Central Ontario can hunt them, not just select WMU. I know that south of Thunder Bay more than 70% of the WMU's are ok to shoot turkey, but after 25 years, it should be better spread out.
If the OFAH is making such a killing on this (my grade school math works it out to an easy quarter million a year in courses) why not move some birds around the province to make it more evenly spread out and fair to everyone.
As you can see, I support the training. I don't support it being delivered in stadium seating with microphones for the attendees to use to be heard by the instructers. I don't support the (almost) non-stop delivery from the bevy of hosts on stage, and the blatant advertising throughout the seminar. If they are being paid by us, why take advertising dollars as well?? I don't think the MNR would do that.
I've taken both my PAL courses and my ONT hunting course and not once did any of my instructors break away from his/her delivery to make sure I knew how important it was to "JOIN TODAY" or "BUY NOW". My classes weren't 300 large as well, so there was opportunity for Q&A and feedback.
I knew what I was being taught and understood what I was being taught.
With the T-course, it was at the Fishing show, it was 6 hours long, and it was statium style seating. First come, first serve, with a line up a half hour long ourside the building.
HELL, the guy beside me didn't even speak english, but with a bit of help I managed to get him through the test with a translator! He passed, as did we all. The 20 questions were too easy. For a 6 or 8 hour course, I'd have expected more. My feeling was that I'd been robbed at gun point of my $35. The up side was that I managed to get an hour in at the fishing show for "free".
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I hear you on that one. One shotgun leads to another, and a new interest in Lever guns has turned into an addiction to Winchester 94'sgrayrc said:I hear you - that first year of courses/registrations/licenses was expensive... but nothing compared to the bills once the gun addiction kicked in
Well, it may not be exactly the same, but there are some simillarities in that we wear camo for both, and many shooters may be in the same local at the same time. Granted, if we're doing it right we should all be aiming up, not forward.grayrc said:I suspect it's in part because nobody is tempted to 'stalk' ducks through the marsh ... but maybe I'm wrong
Not sure about that..... never found bear meat that tasty, and I won't kill it unless I eat it.grayrc said:
grayrc said:
I think you have a point, but I think there should be a time line to it. If you've taken your OHC in the last xx months, you only need to take the short course which is x hours rather than ### hours. I also think the test should be aimed at someone of a grade level consisting of 2 digits! I found all of the questions too simple, and at only 20 questions it was too short. If you are going to give an 8 hour course, you need to make it 50 questions just so people don't think they've been rooked out of their money.
IMHO....
At the fishing show. $35. No lunch, or even a lunch break. Eat while they talk. No swag at the end. Just a certificate and a howdy doo... and free entry to the Fishing show. Oh well, it's over now, and with any luck they wont' make me do it every year I want a turkey ticket.TheFonz said:
For those who don't want to take the course , all I can say is YIPPEE!!...more turkey for me !!. 
I took the course in 1999 and book vacation for turkey hunting each year since.
This season starts in less than 24 hours ( vacation starts in 12hrs) and I'm pumped and ready!
I took the course in 1999 and book vacation for turkey hunting each year since.
This season starts in less than 24 hours ( vacation starts in 12hrs) and I'm pumped and ready!
take your certificate that they gave you at the end of the test.buy your turkey tag with it.keep client copy for your next purchase .then when you renew your outdoors card it will have a T on it to verify you took the coursecsmith99 said:At the fishing show. $35. No lunch, or even a lunch break. Eat while they talk. No swag at the end. Just a certificate and a howdy doo... and free entry to the Fishing show. Oh well, it's over now, and with any luck they wont' make me do it every year I want a turkey ticket.
