Open Bolt .22lr

Nothing odd about them, other than politicians north’s and south of the border don’t like them. It doesn’t get more simple than an open bolt.

Gevarm some models, Voere some models, Mauser 105/copy of the voere. Rubi extra(made in South America). I’m sure there’s others.

Winchester 55 if you really want obscure.
 
When i did my FAC and Hunter training in the early 90s (in NL with old beige book), it was taught that the only 100% safe gun was open action. There was a caution about a particular firearm - I will see if i can dig out that book and report back the model...

Not common that I have seen...
 
djmercer1 said:
When i did my FAC and Hunter training in the early 90s (in NL with old beige book), it was taught that the only 100% safe gun was open action. There was a caution about a particular firearm - I will see if i can dig out that book and report back the model...

Not common that I have seen...
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What is taught is not everything..

A semi auto open bolt is in the "ready to fire" position when the bolt is open... so consider it safe if there is no magazine in place and an empty chamber.
 
Loading and unloading doesn't get any simpler, or safer. For most people, most of the time, a Gevarm makes a tonne of sense, except for the fact that it's out-of-production and the supply of parts and magazines is extremely limited. If it wasn't out-of-production, if parts weren't a problem, and if a Gevarm was still available at a price competititive with a Savage 64, it'd sell like hotcakes.
 
Anyone using a firearm with an open bolt operating system needs to understand how the mechanism works. If the bolt closes on a live round, it fires.
In other semi auto systems, closing the bolt on a live round prepares the firearm to fire.
A copy of the Gevarm or similar rifle should cost less to manufacture than most any other .22 semi auto of similar quality. Waaay fewer parts.
But it might be a challenge to design the trigger mechanism to pass the current Hasselwander standard.
 
Have an acquaintance who has a Gevarm, it runs well we've shot it plenty, supposedly Portuguese fisherman used to come to NL in the 70s, they brought a bunch of these Gevarms with them into port, my acquaintance father or grandfather bought 2 from them, still in his family.
 
guntech said:
What is taught is not everything..

A semi auto open bolt is in the "ready to fire" position when the bolt is open... so consider it safe if there is no magazine in place and an empty chamber.
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agreed, painful now there is no handling and shooting component to being qualified to shoot a big game animal-. qualification before wasnt much, but at least you had shot a rifle...
 
I like mine as it hits the whole rear of the case so in effect 2 strikes on the rim compound, never had a miss fire with mine. You see them come up for sale now and then and they go for high prices. I believe my 10/22 is a better rifle, but the Gevarm is cool too.
 
tiriaq said:
Anyone using a firearm with an open bolt operating system needs to understand how the mechanism works. If the bolt closes on a live round, it fires.
In other semi auto systems, closing the bolt on a live round prepares the firearm to fire.
A copy of the Gevarm or similar rifle should cost less to manufacture than most any other .22 semi auto of similar quality. Waaay fewer parts.
But it might be a challenge to design the trigger mechanism to pass the current Hasselwander standard.
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That standard concerned a decision about a Mini‑Uzi submachine gun. I don't think it has been applied to an open bolt .22 rifle. An open bolt semi auto can be converted to full auto much easier than a closed bolt system... but it is already against the law to do that... so it really should not be considered a problem. (Except in a politicians or RCMP minds)
 
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