Opinions/feedback on the Amplus 6 3x18x44i from Leica

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Hi all,

I’m planning to purchase a new rifle scope, mainly for hunting but also for general precision shooting (300-500 range max). My budget is around 2000$. Having had great personal experience with Leupold scopes in the past, I was initially thinking of buying a VX-5HD 3x15x44. But I recently came across the Amplus 6 3x18x4ii from Leica. On paper, it seems to be an amazing scope, but reviews online are few and far between.

I would greatly appreciate feedback from anyone who has experience with the Amplus 6.

Thanks a lot,

Larry
 
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I’ve had one on my custom 7mag for a while now, excellent scope. I shoot it out past 1000 meters, glass is amazing for the price. Eye box is good even at 18X, on 3X you can see the barrel the FOV is that wide. My Schmidt PM2’s glass is better (obviously) but that Leica is very nice. It has alot of elevation as well, I have enough travel to send a 180 Berger to a mile with a 20moa base. Tracking has been bang on. Solid scope all around. Nice useable reticle as well.

Wait until Precision Optics has a 10 or 15% off sale, then snag one.

Good review of this optic here (yes it has a zero stop):

 

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There's no question that the optics of this scope should be very good, as they are for all Leica products. However, for a hunting rig, it is a heavy scope--23.6 oz. Perhaps this is a non-factor for you, but it is an important variable for me when considering a hunting rifle I'd be carrying in the field--perhaps for long distances. I try to keep all the scopes that go on my big-game hunting rifles to under 16 oz., with most closer to 12 oz. Swarovski has a scope with almost the exact-same power range, the Z5 3.5-18x44. The non-illuminated version weighs 15.7 oz., and the illuminated model, 17.4 oz, so close to half a pound lighter than the Leica. I believe the Swarovski optics will be at least as good as those in the Leica. The prices are very close between the Leica and Swarovski. If I wanted a scope with that power range, I think I'd pick the Swarovski.
 
South Pender said:
There's no question that the optics of this scope should be very good, as they are for all Leica products. However, for a hunting rig, it is a heavy scope--23.6 oz. Perhaps this is a non-factor for you, but it is an important variable for me when considering a hunting rifle I'd be carrying in the field--perhaps for long distances. I try to keep all the scopes that go on my big-game hunting rifles to under 16 oz., with most closer to 12 oz. Swarovski has a scope with almost the exact-same power range, the Z5 3.5-18x44. The non-illuminated version weighs 15.7 oz., and the illuminated model, 17.4 oz, so close to half a pound lighter than the Leica. I believe the Swarovski optics will be at least as good as those in the Leica. The prices are very close between the Leica and Swarovski. If I wanted a scope with that power range, I think I'd pick the Swarovski.
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Unless I am behind in the times, the Z5 does not feature an elevation turret (either Mrad or Moa) and is meant for MPBR, not precision dialing. OP mentioned target shooting as well as hunting.
The only Swaro offering I am aware of that has a proper elevation turret is the X5i model.
 
J996 said:
Unless I am behind in the times, the Z5 does not feature an elevation turret (either Mrad or Moa) and is meant for MPBR, not precision dialing. OP mentioned target shooting as well as hunting.
The only Swaro offering I am aware of that has a proper elevation turret is the X5i model.
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I may be missing what you mean by an "elevation" turret, but the Swarovski Z5 (and some others in the Swarovski lineup) have what they call their "ballistic turret," explained below. Perhaps this falls short of what you mean by "a proper elevation turret":

https://www.swarovskioptik.com/us/en/hunting/stories/for-every-eventuality
 
South Pender said:
I may be missing what you mean by an "elevation" turret, but the Swarovski Z5 (and some others in the Swarovski lineup) have what they call their "ballistic turret," explained below. Perhaps this falls short of what you mean by "a proper elevation turret":

https://www.swarovskioptik.com/us/en/hunting/stories/for-every-eventuality
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Ah yes, their pre-set system with lock rings. Certainly a big step up from using MPBR, but still not a system suitable for precision shooting. As someone who does more LR shooting than hunting, when I do get time for it I prefer target optics (mrad, moa, FFP, SFP, ect) along with their Christmas tree reticles.
This lets me either precisely dial or quickly hold for oddball distance along with inclination/declination and varying DA conditions in the mountains.
 
J996 said:
Ah yes, their pre-set system with lock rings. Certainly a big step up from using MPBR, but still not a system suitable for precision shooting. As someone who does more LR shooting than hunting, when I do get time for it I prefer target optics (mrad, moa, FFP, SFP, ect) along with their Christmas tree reticles.
This lets me either precisely dial or quickly hold for oddball distance along with inclination/declination and varying DA conditions in the mountains.
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Good to know. A couple of questions: (1) does the Leica scope mentioned have a more advanced elevation turret system? and (2) what is MPBR?
 
South Pender said:
Good to know. A couple of questions: (1) does the Leica scope mentioned have a more advanced elevation turret system? and (2) what is MPBR?
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The Leica Amplus 6 3-18X44i has a target turret graduated in moa along with a moa based ballistic reticle. The turret features 20 moa per rev. Zeroed on a 20 moa cant base, mine still has 59.5 moa elevation travel available. That is considered a generous amount in an optic of that size. If one tops that out (approx 1700 ish yds for my 7mag conditions depending) you can continue to use the reticle to hold further. It is SFP, so the sub-tensions are only correct at 18 X and at half power (9X) you can double the value to achieve same. On FFP optics the reticle is correct at all magnifications.

MPBR is maximum point blank range.
https://shooterscalculator.com/point-blank-range.php?df=G1&bc=0.105&vi=1070&sh=1.5&ts=1
 
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