Opinions on Marstar 105 Stock

For a little more you can get a Troy MCS or even a Sage EBR chassis. If you can't afford the nicer stock, these work OK, but it's a PITA to strip the rifle to thorough cleaning - lots of screws to undo.
 
I like mine

A little fitting required, it is a rock solid mount and I like the fact that my optics are on solid. There are some downsides:

It makes it pretty heavy.
You have to take your optics off to give a thourough cleaning.
Some folks have had issues with ejecting rounds hanging up but I haven't.


Mine is a paper puncher and I don't need to carry it much but with the proper sling, I wouldn't have an issue dragging it around. I found that my M14 is more accurate in this mount. Everyone who has tried it really likes it. I like the Magpul PRS on it as well.
 
Thank you for your input guys, glad to hear from someone who actually owns one of these also. I won't be hunting with it either so the weight isn't going to be as important as ergonomics ands accuracy.

Claven, would happen to know how much exactly would a sage system cost? If it is reasonable and the difference is noticeable I wouldn't mind spending extra bucks on a potentially better set up.
 
The frame, plus a collapsible stock, plus a pistol grip, plus a rear sight rail mount for having a scope come back to proper eye releif is going to put you up closer to $800 or more anyway. From what i've seen you can get the sage EBR stock for about $825 - $900 (if you can find one...). And the collapsable stock on the EBR just looks awesome plus it has the foregrip hand cover for comfort on that sharp cut aluminum frame.

That's the route i'm going.

Cheers
 
rallen said:
The frame, plus a collapsible stock, plus a pistol grip, plus a rear sight rail mount for having a scope come back to proper eye releif is going to put you up closer to $800 or more anyway. From what i've seen you can get the sage EBR stock for about $825 - $900 (if you can find one...). And the collapsable stock on the EBR just looks awesome plus it has the foregrip hand cover for comfort on that sharp cut aluminum frame.

That's the route i'm going.

Cheers
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For that price, I would surely go the same way. The only thing is I hear the Troy system gives you a better control for quick succession shots compared to Sage set up, I don't know how much of this claim is true as I haven't tried it myself.
 
I have a troy MCS and if you're doing CQB-type shooting with a shorty barrel or doing quick snap-shots from a standing or kneeling position, the Troy is the way to go. If you want a long-range rig that keep the original irons and that is easier to initially install and set up, the EBR should be your choice.
 
I have other things to spend that kind of money on - more ammo, travel money to go shoot, cleaning supplies for after the shoot, parts to replace the ones that broke at the shoot ....

I've handled a rifle in one. The scope base interfered with ejection. Every part of the chassis was sharp and had lots of places to bite skin. It was unbearably heavy for carrying. There were too many places to hang more expensive baubles and attachments. In the end its Call of Duty chic reinforced my opinion that mirror ninjas airsofters need to get a life. (Ask Hungry about his story of turning the gas cutoff screw on someguy's tricked out Norinco, just to get his goat?)
 
I liked many things about the aluminum AKM stock for the M14, especially the AR like ergonomics, and the "free floated" barrel using the custom op rod guide, bolted firmly to the stock. Ergonomically, all of these CQB/tactical/munimula stocks are trying to make an M14 feel and handle like an AR 10. And they all do this with various degrees of success, and with various compromises, at various price points.

BUT,
as Claven said earlier,
stripping the AKM stocked M14 for thorough cleaning involves a LOT of screws, and then basically re-sighting the rifle.
NOT GOOD for a "practical/tactical tool, eh what???

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I liked my AKM stock enough to invest some effort into improving it, as shown by the pic above, and then liked the concept enough to invest a LOT of time into making a different aluminum stock. we are about 1/2 way through the prototyping and testing with our munimula M14 stock.

but realistically,
if cost is no object,
and ergonomics is the most important criteria,
and you are not planning on taking it hunting,
I still like the Rem R25/ AR 10 the best.

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of course,
as with all opinions you get from the internet for free,
YPMMV
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There are lots of different comps you can hang on the end of an M14 shorty. By threading the barrel to 1/2" x 28 tpi, you open up the possibility of using almost any AR 15 comp. Some people rethread the original NORC flash hider to 1/2" x 28 tpi, and mount it. The comp on the bottom is a modified YHM AR 15 comp.

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The one in the pic below is the OLDER [ smaller diameter ] version of the Dlask copy of the Miceluk Comp, 1/2" x 28 TPI, originally designed for .223 cal AR 15s. This one has been Modified for the M14 .... Bored out for .308 cal bullets.

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RAUCH makes a ready to mount, slightly modified SS version of the same type comp, designed specifically for the shorty M14, 1/2" x 28 TPI, already bored for .308.

These are big, long, heavy comps, and they work well at reducing muzzle jump to about the same as a 7.62x39 Russian cartridge. BUT, they are LOUD to the sides!!!!.

YHM makes a neat and tidy smaller AR 15 comp with two chambers, that looks like a regular flash hider, and looks great on the M14 shorties, but again you need to re-bore for .308 bullets.

For my personal M14 shorties, I have switched over to the Dlask copy of the PWS TTO comp, again bored out for .308.

YPMMV
 
thanks for the input, have you any experience with Vias on the M14. They indicate they can thread to anything. What it not be possible to thread to the existing Norc barrel threads? In fact are there any direct connect replacements for the standard Norc barrel?
 
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