Orange or red Tip 5.56?

freekshow001

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Since you are able to get green tipped 5.56 ammo i was just wondering if you can get orange or red tipped (tracer) 5.56 ammo. I would be interested in either loaded ammo or just the projectiles.
 
Tracer rounds are legal to own, but you are unable to import.
You can buy old stock, if shops have any.


Correct me if I'm wrong, with legislation.
 
Tracer rounds are legal to own, but you are unable to import.
You can buy old stock, if shops have any.


Correct me if I'm wrong, with legislation.
unauthorized products are not legal to possess (or import), although NRCAN does not really enforce it. All the details can be found in the explosives act.
 
unauthorized products are not legal to possess (or import), although NRCAN does not really enforce it. All the details can be found in the explosives act.

Yes, as I say, it is not enforced. I see lots of ammo not on the approved list being sold.

I recall you mentioning that the old CIL Imperial ammo (made in Canada) was also not on the list, as the list is relatively new.
I wonder how much of my cartridge collection does not conform.
I doubt that the 150 year old pinfires and other "patent ignition" rounds are listed...
 
Is black tip legal? I haven't ever seen any, would be interesting to try some out on metal.

Black tip 30-06 is what level 4 body armour will stop.

Be very careful of richocets. I had one go almost all
Way Through a AR500 half inch thick gong. Massive piece
removed. Just some 1942 military, the black tip was
nearly all worn off.
 
Yes, but illegal in Canada per NRCAN policy, sorry.

I'm confused, because NRCAN website indicates that tracer ammo can now be considered for authorization for commercial sales. Does that mean that they're still thinking about it?

http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/explosives/acts-regulations/9843#p14

Part 14. Small Arms Cartridges, Propellant Powder and Percussion Caps
This Part authorizes the acquisition, storage and sale of small arms cartridges, propellant powder and percussion caps, and includes the requirements for the manufacturing of small arms cartridges and black powder cartouches for personal use. A reference to mass in this Part means the net quantity (mass of the explosives excluding the mass of any packaging, container, shell casing, or projectile).

Q. Were any changes made as a result of comments from Canada Gazette, Part I?
Yes. The changes made are:

small arms cartridges defined as up to 19.1 millimetres (.75 calibre) compared to previous 12.7 millimetre (.50 calibre) to harmonize with the United Nations Transport of Dangerous Goods definition;
the differentiation of small arms cartridges containing black powder is removed;
the quantity of black powder permitted in a detached dwelling is increased to 10 kilograms (consistent with the previous Regulations);
the wording on tracer and armour-piercing projectiles is removed, tracer ammunition can now be considered for authorization and commercial sales, provided that it is proven safe for use based on test results;
notes added to clarify that the maximum quantity of small arms cartridges refers to 225 kilograms net quantity;
clarification that the maximum permitted unlicensed storage of powder in all detached storage units is 75 kilograms at a site, not including the quantity that may be stored in a dwelling; and
clarification that secure storage means that persons not authorized are not given unlimited access to small arms cartridges storage areas.
 
Yes, they will approve "cold" tracers, in theory.

I assumed we were talking about conventional pyro tracers, aka orange tip

I was told by the head of the ERD that pyro tracers will not be approved. The are deemed inherently unsafe.
 
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I'm confused, because NRCAN website indicates that tracer ammo can now be considered for authorization for commercial sales. Does that mean that they're still thinking about it?

http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/explosives/acts-regulations/9843#p14

Part 14. Small Arms Cartridges, Propellant Powder and Percussion Caps
This Part authorizes the acquisition, storage and sale of small arms cartridges, propellant powder and percussion caps, and includes the requirements for the manufacturing of small arms cartridges and black powder cartouches for personal use. A reference to mass in this Part means the net quantity (mass of the explosives excluding the mass of any packaging, container, shell casing, or projectile).

Q. Were any changes made as a result of comments from Canada Gazette, Part I?
Yes. The changes made are:

small arms cartridges defined as up to 19.1 millimetres (.75 calibre) compared to previous 12.7 millimetre (.50 calibre) to harmonize with the United Nations Transport of Dangerous Goods definition;
the differentiation of small arms cartridges containing black powder is removed;
the quantity of black powder permitted in a detached dwelling is increased to 10 kilograms (consistent with the previous Regulations);
the wording on tracer and armour-piercing projectiles is removed, tracer ammunition can now be considered for authorization and commercial sales, provided that it is proven safe for use based on test results;
notes added to clarify that the maximum quantity of small arms cartridges refers to 225 kilograms net quantity;
clarification that the maximum permitted unlicensed storage of powder in all detached storage units is 75 kilograms at a site, not including the quantity that may be stored in a dwelling; and
clarification that secure storage means that persons not authorized are not given unlimited access to small arms cartridges storage areas.

Don't muddy the waters with facts.
 
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