Ouch! Recoil!

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This makes me wonder what the recoil actually was of the 6 pound 12 gauge with 3 inch magnums that my brother once owned! :eek: The make escapes me now but I think it was probably a Cooey or Winchester. It had no recoil pad and I remember as a teenager after 2-3 shots when duck hunting it was just too painful to shoot anymore and we had to take turns and hand it off to someone else.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/12gauge.htm

The principle drawbacks of the 12 gauge shotgun are the size and weight of the typical 12 gauge gun itself, especially the repeaters, and the recoil generated by the big shells. These two factors make the 12 gauge unsuitable for many shooters.

According to the Shotgun Recoil Table the recoil energy of a 1 ounce target load at 1180 fps in a typical 7.5 pound gun is 17.3 ft. lbs., about like the recoil of a .270 rifle. The typical promotional shell with 1 ounce of shot at 1290 fps in the same shotgun hits back with around 20.8 ft. lbs. of recoil energy, about like an average .30-06 rifle. These loads deliver about as much recoil as most shooters can stand on a continuing basis.

A typical high-brass load with 1 1/4 ounces of shot at a MV of 1330 fps fired in a 7.5 pound shotgun is much worse. It belts the shooter with 36.4 ft. lbs. of recoil. This is roughly equivalent to the kick of a .300 Ultra Mag. rifle. Average hunters should strictly limit the number of such loads they fire to avoid developing a flinch.

12 gauge Magnum shells are even worse. A 2 3/4 inch Magnum shell throwing 1 1/2 ounces of shot at 1260 fps from a 7.5 pound shotgun belts the shooter with 45.9 ft. lbs. of recoil, somewhat more than the recoil of a typical .375 H&H Magnum rifle shooting 300 grain factory loads! And the 3 inch Magnum 12 gauge shell firing 1 7/8 ounces of shot at a MV of 1210 fps in that same 7.5 pound shotgun slams the shooter with over 60 ft. lbs. of recoil energy. This is equivalent to the recoil of a .378 Weatherby Magnum rifle, and exceeds the recoil of a typical .458 Winchester Magnum rifle. This is literally recoil in the elephant gun class, and most shooters would be well advised to avoid such loads.
 
And the 3 inch Magnum 12 gauge shell firing 1 7/8 ounces of shot at a MV of 1210 fps in that same 7.5 pound shotgun slams the shooter with over 60 ft. lbs. of recoil energy. This is equivalent to the recoil of a .378 Weatherby Magnum rifle, and exceeds the recoil of a typical .458 Winchester Magnum rifle. This is literally recoil in the elephant gun class, and most shooters would be well advised to avoid such loads.
There is more to recoil than just foot pounds. There is also the speed of the recoil. As an extreme example, the recoil from an inertia operated shotgun is the same as from a gas operated gun. The gas operated gun feels like it recoils less because the impulse is spread over a longer period of time rather than the faster recoil of the inertia action.

The 3" magnum shell might have the same foot pounds as a .378 Weatherby but the slower shot load means it's more of a healthy shove than the hard punch of the faster rifle cartridge.

I've fired both and I'd rather fire a box of 3" mags than one round from .378 Weatherby.
 
The worst recoil I have ever experienced was a 12 g 3" I think 1.75 oz turkey load shot sitting down. I was trying to practise for an updoming Turkey season. My shoulder and shlouder blade was sore for a week.
 
sooo...how much recoil is there shooting an 870 with 26" barrel with a full choke and 3 1/2" 00buck:confused: waay to much to shoot it alot!:D i find that after shooting those loads a few times the back of my head and neck really hurt.

when i take newbies out (males only) i usually let them try out this load wenever they want. its funny when they try this load first because i always repeat to hold on tight...not many take me seriously. after that they get all excited and i tell them that nothing out of a shotgun will kick any harder.

one guy that did this turned out to be a natural shooter. first time with a shotgun and he shot 15/15 clay pigeons thrown at various speeds.
 
martinbns said:
The worst recoil I have ever experienced was a 12 g 3" I think 1.75 oz turkey load shot sitting down. I was trying to practise for an updoming Turkey season. My shoulder and shlouder blade was sore for a week.

try 3 1/2", 21/4oz load with your shoulder against a tree:eek: now that will make u sore....
 
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it kicked so hard I went back in time
 
10 Gauge Greener sxs, 1 7/8 oz loads, both barrels went off, 3 times consecutively, (I'm a slow learner), 10.5 pound gun. More recoil then I care to experience, at that point I was thinking I'd be just as happy to go a round with a 300 ultra mag. Took 2 days to get my shoulder fully functional again.
 
I'm not sure I believe those numbers.

I'd rather shoot a ton of 3" out of my 14" Norinco that a few 200grn out of my .300WM.

The rifle FEELS like it has far more recoil than the shotgun.
 
I can shoot 3" thru my Mossberg all day too, but take off that recoil pad and put a narrow small stock like that of a Cooey and lose a pound or so in mass and you talking a different ballgame.
 
870 Marine Magnum

My (now ex) girlfriend fired a 2 3/4" rifled slug from my 870 Marine Magnum, it knocked the saftey glasses right off of her face.

This is why I only load one shot for begininers.

Dr.Chris
 
I had head all the recoil tails of slugs from shotguns. I just got a mossberg 500 and put 25 slugs through it in one session. The recoil is not that bad. It is actualy a lot more mild than i thought.

Try a 416 rigby loaded to Wetherby velocity from the bench or a 458 Lott, to me that is where things start to cross the line.
 
Nine said:
12G 3" 1oz slug @ 1600 fps out of a norc HP9-1 (14") w/ 12" LOP. Ouch. Mind your thumb, you may punch yourself in the face.


I second that!
First time out with my HP9-1, I shot 35 1oz slugs, 15rds 000 and 15rds 00 buck all from a bench (no choice in this damned province to do it any other way when out doors). The same day another 15rds of 20ga slugs. I was only wearing a t-shirt since it was about 36deg Celsius in the shade that day.
My shoulder was black, blue, purple, yellow and green for about a good 3 weeks.
The range officer couldn't even look anymore.
 
But then again, some of us like the recoil :).

Was out a few weekends ago putting some Winchester 3" slugs through the rifled barrel on my 870 Super Mag. The recoil was pretty impressive. Clocked myself in the face a few times with my thumb.

Still, I can't wait to do it again.:dancingbanana:
 
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