Our last grizzlies

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We're likely done thanks to the NDP, the coast has a double whammy as in addition to the new rules they sound like they're closing the Great Bear Rainforest which is essentially the whole coast, at least anywhere with Grizzly tags. Been lucky to do a lot of Grizzly hunts, it became my favourite hunt and I'll miss it. CGNer Hoytcanon guided the first grizz down this trip (second pic) and has now been on four BC grizz, we camped on opposite ends of the same river bar system. There were some colourful moments.

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You were sunk by a bunch of smart greenies who understood marketing.

Saving the Great Bear Rainforest with good marketing

Justine Hunter

Sitting in an Italian restaurant in San Francisco in 1997, a gathering of environmental activists wrestled with a marketing challenge. They were mapping out an ambitious plan to prevent logging of old growth forests along the edge of British Columbia’s coastline.

The area is visually stunning, and is home to the rare Kermode bears, which survive only in pristine sections of B.C.’s temperate rain forest. The group knew that these ingredients, matched with its clout in international markets, could be used to put significant pressure on the forest industry.

The problem was the name of the region: The Central Mid-coast Timber Supply Area. The intent of the campaign was to persuade consumers in Europe and the United States to stop buying B.C. forest products from the region. Asking people to protest against logging in a timber supply area was not going to fly.

At the table were veterans of the battle over logging in Clayoquot Sound: Chris Hatch, Karen Mahon, Tzeporah Berman, Valerie Langer and Ian McAllister.

They were searching for something evocative, something that matched the Amazon, the Serengeti, the Grand Canyon, in offering a sense of place.

After a few glasses of wine, the paper tablecloth was covered with potential new names: The Great Salmon Forest, the Spirit Forest. The word “wilderness” was discarded because it implied the absence of human settlements – and First Nations have lived there for thousands of years.

One name stood out by the end of the night: The Great Bear Rainforest.

Mr. McAllister, a conservationist and wildlife photographer, has spent more than two decades living in the region, where he has captured iconic images of coastal wolves, grizzlies and, above all, the region’s rare black bears with white fur, dubbed the Spirit Bear.

His images would be a key component of the campaign.

The Great Bear Rainforest campaign was launched, and both industry and the provincial government were immediately on the defensive, trying to figure out a way to eradicate the phrase. When that did not work, they eventually jumped on the bandwagon and tried to make it a marketing asset for B.C.’s forest products.

Last week, when the government announced the final stage of the historic collaboration to preserve the Great Bear Rainforest, Mr. McAllister was in no mood for celebration.

“The first time I saw this place, I thought we would have this campaign wrapped up in a year. That’s how naïve I was,” he said.

What he sees out his window is discouraging. Trophy hunting of bears continues, logging operations still threaten salmon-bearing rivers. The province eagerly is pursuing resource development that could allow a network of pipelines to slice through the region.

“Many of the valleys that Greenpeace and others went to the wall over back in the day are now being dismantled without any opposition,” Mr. McAllister said. “What is so essential is that we are vigilant. The story behind the Great Bear Rainforest is that there will be other threats that will come up, things in 20 years that we can’t foresee now.”

One thing that can be foreseen is the need to combat climate change. Kumi Naidoo, executive director of Greenpeace International, met with B.C.’s Minister of Environment, Mary Polak, in March to urge the government to complete the deal that has taken so long to negotiate.

It was not part of the dialogue around the table in the 1990s, but Mr. Naidoo now hopes to tie this forestry battle to the government’s climate-change agenda.

The destruction of rainforests is a significant contributor to greenhouse gas emissions. But preserving forests, which help absorb the carbon emitted by human activities, can allow the government to claim credit for moderating climate change.

“The region is also an important carbon sink, and thus from a climate-change mitigation perspective, it is vital as much remain intact as possible,” Mr. Naidoo said.

He would like the Great Bear Rainforest pact sealed by the fall. As an incentive to the province, he pointed out to Ms. Polak that the next United Nations climate-change conference, coming up in November, would be an excellent time for the province to trumpet the Great Bear Rainforest as an example of its climate leadership.

Just as it began, the bid to save the Great Bear Rainforest once again relies on good marketing.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...inforest-with-good-marketing/article24954082/
 
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There are so many of them up here in northern BC.. they r routinely shot in defense of livestock and self-defense.. it never makes the news as it happens all the time. Only going to get worst until the NDP is gone and the hunt is back on
 
That's a really raw deal Ardent.

The BC Libs made a huge error in keeping Christy Clark on as their leader, even more so than the CPC keeping Harper on as the leader. Leaders all have expiry dates, and they should recognize them.

And while only a small percentage of BC residents are hunters, they also have family and friends, and the Libs siding with GOABC over resident hunters when they re-opened the allocation process didn't help their cause with that demographic. I know lots of resident hunters that voted NDP this time because of this- or just didn't vote. Did it make a difference? Hard to say, but this election was so close, even one extra Lib MLA might have turned the tides on the grizzly hunt.

Christy was never super popular, had they ditched her a year prior to the election things may have been different. I really worry about the direction of our province these days.

As it is, the new grizzly hunt regulation proposal is a ridiculous one. You can still hunt grizzlies in some parts of BC (But not in the so-called "Great Bear Rainforest") but you are supposed to only retrieve the meat, and not the hide or skull. How stupid is that? A meat retention regulation might make a bit of sense, but from a conservation standpoint,the new regs are a joke.

PS Nice pics, the first one looks like a pretty darn good bear! :)
 
I'll adapt to the change but certainly isn't one I welcome. Grizzly hunting is logistically extremely intensive where I operate and takes huge amounts of fuel and equipment to do successfully, in one way it's easier to focus on our backpack species. It's also one of the riskier endeavours for various reasons as Hoyt could detail. Never felt sulking will get me anywhere so will celebrate having been able to do it, and move forward and adapt, the whole industry requires constant adaptation in modern times and that brings its own interesting challenges. Amazing how the NDP can overnight decide to cut huge amounts off your already strained revenue, and the territory value, at the stroke of a pen then ignore your requests for dialogue immediately after. At least so far. BC is in for a rough ride with these folks at the helm.
 
That's a really raw deal Ardent.

The BC Libs made a huge error in keeping Christy Clark on as their leader, even more so than the CPC keeping Harper on as the leader. Leaders all have expiry dates, and they should recognize them.

And while only a small percentage of BC residents are hunters, they also have family and friends, and the Libs siding with GOABC over resident hunters when they re-opened the allocation process didn't help their cause with that demographic. I know lots of resident hunters that voted NDP this time because of this- or just didn't vote. Did it make a difference? Hard to say, but this election was so close, even one extra Lib MLA might have turned the tides on the grizzly hunt.

Christy was never super popular, had they ditched her a year prior to the election things may have been different. I really worry about the direction of our province these days.

As it is, the new grizzly hunt regulation proposal is a ridiculous one. You can still hunt grizzlies in some parts of BC (But not in the so-called "Great Bear Rainforest") but you are supposed to only retrieve the meat, and not the hide or skull. How stupid is that? A meat retention regulation might make a bit of sense, but from a conservation standpoint,the new regs are a joke.

PS Nice pics, the first one looks like a pretty darn good bear! :)

Did anyone ever get clarification on this? I had read that they weren't allowed to leave the province, but I couldn't find anything definitive about whether someone like you or I, who are residents of BC, can harvest those parts? Because I would absolutely love to do a grizzly bear hunt one day, but I would really love a grizzly skull to add to my collection too, and I am not sure I want to go grizz hunting for the meat alone (which I hear can actually be pretty good on the interior bears that aren't full of spawning salmon)

Ardent, I feel for yah. When I heard about the Regs, you were the one specific person that I knew this would negatively impact...
 
With the Dippers in power we are on a race to the bottomn...
Huge debt and no work awaits our province.. With the help of the greens it has turned into a race.. how fast can we get there..
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Well done, got the full skinny straight from Hoyt...... An adventure that was arduous for both of you, but a great story that will outlive the both of you......

Crappy deal on the grizz cancellation..... I can appreciate your adapt and overcome attitude...
 
Did anyone ever get clarification on this? I had read that they weren't allowed to leave the province, but I couldn't find anything definitive about whether someone like you or I, who are residents of BC, can harvest those parts? Because I would absolutely love to do a grizzly bear hunt one day, but I would really love a grizzly skull to add to my collection too, and I am not sure I want to go grizz hunting for the meat alone (which I hear can actually be pretty good on the interior bears that aren't full of spawning salmon)

Ardent, I feel for yah. When I heard about the Regs, you were the one specific person that I knew this would negatively impact...

Word presently is you'll have to turn in the skin and skull for destruction or cultural repurposing at a compulsory inspection, to ensure no aspect of "trophy hunting" (starts Nov 30th), and only be able to take the meat home. The coast / Great Bear Rainforest is to become a Grizzly sanctuary in its entirety. And indeed Grizzly skulls are pretty neat, my biggest on a full sized Rubbermaid lid.

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Well done, got the full skinny straight from Hoyt...... An adventure that was arduous for both of you, but a great story that will outlive the both of you......

Crappy deal on the grizz cancellation..... I can appreciate your adapt and overcome attitude...

Little more stress and adventure than anyone wanted, and one of my other guides was just charged on his personal grizz hunt which he cut his LEH tag on at extremely close range, been an eventful couple weeks of Grizzly hunting around here.
 
New BC government is hitting us all in the pocket book, definitely feel your pain and nice bears
 
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I don't know what the answer is to these kinds of ill informed decisions but it seems as though in today's society those who are non compliant seem to be left alone and those who are compliant get the short end of the stick over and over until there is no more stick then are made to adapt to the changes and have the powers that be start over on taking away the next stick. Read into that what you will or how you would but I know I have come to an age and point in my life where I feel the gov't has no right to tell me I must purchase a license or pay them for the "privilidge" of harvesting what they perceive as "their" game animals. I am by no means a man of scripture and verse but I know there is a reference in the bible about the animals having been put here for man's use. Based on that as we are considered to be a country of Christian values then as far as I am concerned the government's of our nation can go #### themselves in telling me how, when, where and how many animals I may take for my needs.
And by the way I fully support your Grizzly hunts even though I have no need of one or desire to pursue one. I would definitely shoot one however if there were a need for me to do so.
 
The lesson from Africa is that.everything has to pay its way. Areas there.that cancelled safari hunting got no further value from their exotic and dangerous game. The result was human and livestock encroachment, poaching, habitat destruction to the point of oblivion.

The same likely awaits grizzlies in BC.
 
I don't know what the answer is to these kinds of ill informed decisions but it seems as though in today's society those who are non compliant seem to be left alone and those who are compliant get the short end of the stick over and over until there is no more stick then are made to adapt to the changes and have the powers that be start over on taking away the next stick. Read into that what you will or how you would but I know I have come to an age and point in my life where I feel the gov't has no right to tell me I must purchase a license or pay them for the "privilidge" of harvesting what they perceive as "their" game animals. I am by no means a man of scripture and verse but I know there is a reference in the bible about the animals having been put here for man's use. Based on that as we are considered to be a country of Christian values then as far as I am concerned the government's of our nation can go #### themselves in telling me how, when, where and how many animals I may take for my needs.
And by the way I fully support your Grizzly hunts even though I have no need of one or desire to pursue one. I would definitely shoot one however if there were a need for me to do so.

Can't say I agree with what I think is your message. But I am frustrated too when decisions on wildlife aren't made for conservation reasons, but for politics, Hoyt and I had a good talk in the Grizzly grounds talking the now passed spring black bear closure in Ontario and its politics. I'll always follow the rules however asinine but won't be happy about it, particularly when it affects my living so much.

The lesson from Africa is that.everything has to pay its way. Areas there.that cancelled safari hunting got no further value from their exotic and dangerous game. The result was human and livestock encroachment, poaching, habitat destruction to the point of oblivion.

The same likely awaits grizzlies in BC.

One positive is I don't think so, BC's too big and too wild, spent some time in Africa and it's a much different scenario there. We're 94% crown land in BC and loaded with Grizz, one of the two camps spotted 58 grizz this trip (Hoyt), and that's not going to change hunting or not. We're just losing a tradition and a business for no good reason.
 
Can't say I agree with what I think is your message. But I am frustrated too when decisions on wildlife aren't made for conservation reasons, but for politics, Hoyt and I had a good talk in the Grizzly grounds talking the now passed spring black bear closure in Ontario and its politics. I'll always follow the rules however asinine but won't be happy about it, particularly when it affects my living so much.



One positive is I don't think so, BC's too big and too wild, spent some time in Africa and it's a much different scenario there. We're 94% crown land in BC and loaded with Grizz, one of the two camps spotted 58 grizz this trip (Hoyt), and that's not going to change hunting or not. We're just losing a tradition and a business for no good reason.

The 59th went down...

What we are loosing, is the PR battle with the non-hunting public... the hunting community had better wake up soon to the nuances of this new "social media" world... there is much at stake.

Ardent has a tremendous hunting region with a wealth of wildlife opportunities beyond grizzlies, but it surely is spectacular grizzly country. It was a pleasure to share a camp together and take part in the culmination of a dream for a few fellow sportspersons...
 
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