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I recently picked up a Winchester 1886 "Short Rifle" in 45-70. Are there many other owners of these rifles here?

It's a new production Miroku and it feels built like a bank vault. As someone who has always owned Marlin 45-70's this Winchester feels like quite the departure given it's 24" barrel and beefier 8.5lbs weight.

The action does feel very solid though and locks up like a bank vault with the twin lock-blocks.

I was initially leaning towards the case hardened "Deluxe" model but figure the Short Rifle would be a more appropriate hunting rig.

Looking to hear your thoughts on the rifle.
 
I have one in 45-90. very good cast slug shooter but I haven't hunted it yet. Some of them will give trouble with the rebound hammer mechanism, light hammer strikes for hard to fire primers. i havent had any trouble with mine but I use Federal primers. If yours gives you trouble there is a fix link offered up on the net somewhere .
 
I have a 45-70 short rifle. These are very well made rifles and the 86 action is very strong. I really haven’t shot mine much and I just got some 350 grain hard cast powder coated bullets to try if I ever get time.
I had a Chiappa Kodiak for a few years and replaced it with this rifle, the workman ship is much better although I do miss the rubber recoil pad on the Kodiak.
 
Mine is not technically a Short Rifle, but it was modified into a very similar configuration by the inimitable Ralf Martini before I obtained it. The original owner is a regular poster on CGN and contacted me when I foolishly listed the gun for sale after having owned it for a number of years, and he provided me with some info on it. Fortunately, I came to my senses shortly thereafter and removed the ad. :)

It started out with a 26-inch barrel and crescent steel buttplate, and was cut down to 22-inches and had the buttplate replaced with a nice rubber recoil pad; not sure if the action needed or had any TLC applied to it. Later, another 'smith added a Marbles tang sight specifically intended for the tang-safety version of the 1886. It's scalloped on the bottom surface and fits partially over the tang safety, which remains accessible to the paranoid but easily ignored by normal people. It will never be accidentally pushed on or off with the sight in place, so it's easy to put in into the Fire position and just forget about it.

I'm sure it was a nice rifle before these mods, but it's now a wonderful practical hunting rifle. In comparison to a Marlin 1885, the 1886 feels much more heavily-constructed and cycles more smoothly than most Marlins I've owned; it's a quality rifle. Between new cataract-free lenses in my eyes and the excellent Marbles sight, I'd be completely confident in taking on a deer at up to 200 or even 225 yards in good light (much less at dawn or dusk). It's zeroed at 200 and hits about 7 inches high at 100, so not quite as much a no-brainer to shoot as a typical scoped sporter chambered in a typical deer cartridge, but still very usable. :)

If you're an experienced levergun shooter and accustomed to older, pre-safety models, you may experience a serious brain fart the first time you shoot a tang-safety or cross-bolt safety newer rifle. Since these still allow the hammer to fall when the trigger is pulled, it's easy to fall back on old habits and rely upon the hammer position for safety, with or without an empty chamber. Then when a quick shot needs to be taken, the hammer is thumbed back or the lever cranked and the trigger is pulled...and the hammer falls (not far enough with the safety applied to actually fire the gun) and you get that horrifying click. Dumbfounded, you cycle the lever, ejecting a perfectly good live round into the weeds, and fire again...click. Crank the lever again and hear another big heavy cartridge thud onto the ground. Squeeze the trigger, crank her again, and after yet another click maybe you think to re-#### the hammer manually, so this time you get another bonus click without actually losing another cartridge. By the time embarrassment sets in as you realize what a doofus you've been...the deer is long gone... :ROFLMAO: 🤬

Fortunately, this only happens once per shooter...but, trust me, once is more than enough. :)

At this point I've taken a couple coyotes with this gun, and carried it on the occasional day while hunting but never fired at a deer. I plan on carrying it in some locations for my deer hunt this fall. I have only one tag but at least three rifles that all need to kill a deer, so we'll see how it goes. Walking up onto a downed animal, even a coyote, while carrying this rifle rather than a typical scoped bolt gun is special. :)
 
I have one in 45/90, shoots 450 hard cast the best, the crescent steel but plate is terrible and I would like to get another stock so I can have a limb saver installed to make it more tolerable.
 
The crescent butt plate can definitely cause some discomfort with a heavy load in my 45/90, but with colder days ahead I might have some time to tame it down a bit with a shotgun butt pad. Just undecided on Winchester red or plain black.
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Had a couple of Miruko Winchesters recently. Extremely nice guns. Have gone to a Pedersoli hunter light. Case hardened sling swivels and a shotgun pad. No safety’s and the action is super smooth. Had a bunch of guide guns, they are perfect for their intended purpose but ā€˜86s are way nicer in my opinion. Removable bolts are pretty deluxe though.
 
450 , nice looking wood bits there
where did you find those? I have a Marlin that needs some care
About 25yrs ago I was coming home from Calif and happened to see a gun show in Glendive Mt late on a Sunday afternoon.
Closing soon so I zipped through it and stopped at a table that had 3pcs of walnut on it. One set was $125,80 & 75. Guy says I’m tired of packing them around- $100 there yours. Quite a bit of weight to 3sets I found out! Two have already gone on my 1893’s and this one is inletted for the 86’. The top two Marlins- bottom Marlin wood was from Wenigs about 30yrs ago. When work slows down I’ll try to get the 86’ done.IMG_4626.jpegIMG_4487.jpeg
 
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I have a couple of other 2pc sets, just haven’t decided what I’ll put them on, might work on a couple old Marlin 1894’s I have. IMG_0215.jpegIMG_0214.jpeg
 
I have one in 45-70 installed William's receiver sight from Reliable Gun. I shoot 400 gr Speer @ 1908 F.P,S for hunting. love it. for plinking i use 300gr cam pros from Budget Shooting Supplies. I have not harvested any animals with it yet, but i have taken a moose and 3 deer with my 1885 highwall in 45-70.
 
I haven’t had a reproduction Winchester marked ā€˜86 but the Browning versions are awesome. Just need to be careful about cast bullet choice as they don’t have a lead in the chamber/rifling. Greater shooters and no safety.
 
I recently picked up a Winchester 1886 "Short Rifle" in 45-70. Are there many other owners of these rifles here?

It's a new production Miroku and it feels built like a bank vault. As someone who has always owned Marlin 45-70's this Winchester feels like quite the departure given it's 24" barrel and beefier 8.5lbs weight.

The action does feel very solid though and locks up like a bank vault with the twin lock-blocks.

I was initially leaning towards the case hardened "Deluxe" model but figure the Short Rifle would be a more appropriate hunting rig.

Looking to hear your thoughts on the rifle.
I have a Browning 1886 ā€œ1 of 3000ā€ā€¦converted to .475 Turnbull (by Turnbull)…crescent buttplate…make sure your dental plan is up to date for those fillings that will come loose :)


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I always wanted an 1886 but was too cheap to buy one. I bought a Marlin 1895 Cowboy for a deal hoping that it would satisfy me. It didn't, so I moved it down the road for a very hefty profit. Then a friend gifted me his Model 71. Now I'm pretty satisfied and I have something even cooler than the 86 I thought I wanted. Besides, I didn't need a fourth 45-70...probably.
 
I always wanted an 1886 but was too cheap to buy one. I bought a Marlin 1895 Cowboy for a deal hoping that it would satisfy me. It didn't, so I moved it down the road for a very hefty profit. Then a friend gifted me his Model 71. Now I'm pretty satisfied and I have something even cooler than the 86 I thought I wanted. Besides, I didn't need a fourth 45-70...probably.
Love my 71 .......
 
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