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Someone should be kicking in your door any second now. What's with it with people? Just re pin the damn things for gods sake
 
dogzilla said:
Someone should be kicking in your door any second now. What's with it with people? Just re pin the damn things for gods sake
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That would be years of living under the liberals where everything is Illegal and you need permission to wipe your bum let alone do anything with your own property. By that I mean there is a generation who doesn't remember what it was like to live under the old firearms system, where not perfect we were trusted to some extent.

Rant over, Like Dogzilla said just repin it yourself. Just make sure you can't get six in it.
 
RememberTheSomme said:
Why are Pmags pinned so that they barely take 5 rounds and some don't take 5 rounds. Can we re pin them ourselves?
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Why? Well not all of them are, some are pinned perfectly at 5.5 but when the importer has some lazy halfwit that doesn't know anything about guns do the job they don't realize that making them tight is a pain in the ass for the customer.

Yes, you can re-pin them yourself. Just make sure you figure out exactly where the rivet needs to be and you use a rivet short enough that it doesn't interfere with the spring yet long enough to catch the follower.
Once you remove the base plate the mag is inoperable and is now just parts and you can do whatever you want with it.
Plus, do you think there is some type of alarm and tracking beacon built into every mag? If you drill out the rivet will the SWAT team kick in your door in 30 seconds? Just do it and enjoy your magazine.

I was tempted to suggest we have a sticky made of one of these posts but we will end up with 3 pages of stickies just to get to the same repetitive questions anyway.
 
cr5 said:
Once you remove the base plate the mag is inoperable and is now just parts...
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Not true. The courts have ruled that the body, if not modified to hold only 5 rounds for the firearm it's intended for, is the prohibited device. That's why you can't buy and import unpinned mag bodies.
 
wicked_police said:
Not true. The courts have ruled that the body, if not modified to hold only 5 rounds for the firearm it's intended for, is the prohibited device. That's why you can't buy and import unpinned mag bodies.
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I hope that's not true. I have an old Sten mag that I just took apart and store the parts in a couple different spots to avoid trouble without modifying the mag. I don't want to drill it.
When did they rule that nonsense?

Either way, for the point of this thread he will be fine if he removes the rivet and replaces it with one in the right spot. No helicopters will be deployed and no SWAT team will kick in his door.
 
What's the better solution? Trim the bottom tab on the follower to allow it to travel far enough down to the existing rivet location, or drill a new hole in the body? I bet it would be more precise to trim the follower.
Someone could:
1. Remove rivet temporarily, and be ready to immediately reinstall, once maintenance is complete.
2. Load 5 pieces of empty brass in the mag (for safety)
3. Ensure rifle bolt is closed
3. Insert mag in magazine well
4. Mark the follower with a pen, through the existing rivet hole
5. Remove follower and trim out a slot to the top of the pen mark (plus 1/32" higher to allow for rivet expansion). The slot only needs to be wide enough to clear the expanded shank diameter of the rivet you are about to re-install
6. Re-install rivet immediately
7. Ensure there is absolutely no way to fit 6 rounds in the magazine
8. Enjoy
 
Northpoint said:
What's the better solution? Trim the bottom tab on the follower to allow it to travel far enough down to the existing rivet location, or drill a new hole in the body? I bet it would be more precise to trim the follower.
Someone could:
1. Remove rivet temporarily, and be ready to immediately reinstall, once maintenance is complete.
2. Load 5 pieces of empty brass in the mag (for safety)
3. Ensure rifle bolt is closed
3. Insert mag in magazine well
4. Mark the follower with a pen, through the existing rivet hole
5. Remove follower and trim out a slot to the top of the pen mark (plus 1/32" higher to allow for rivet expansion). The slot only needs to be wide enough to clear the expanded shank diameter of the rivet you are about to re-install
6. Re-install rivet immediately
7. Ensure there is absolutely no way to fit 6 rounds in the magazine
8. Enjoy
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Thank you sir, very informative indeed. I was eyeballing the follower thinking the same thing but of course was not practical from the bottom end, never considered doing the work through the original rivet hole. Thanks again! RTS
 
gunnyee12 said:
This will not work if you use an AR, as the hole will be inside the mag well.
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Good point. Hmm. Could take a measurement from bottom of mag to follower when inserted with 5, with base and spring removed. Then put the follower at same dimension once removed from the rifle, and pen mark it at that point.

Eta: just hold the rifle upside down so gravity helps you hold everything stacked together while taking your measurement.
 
Northpoint said:
What's the better solution? Trim the bottom tab on the follower to allow it to travel far enough down to the existing rivet location, or drill a new hole in the body? I bet it would be more precise to trim the follower.
Someone could:
1. Remove rivet temporarily, and be ready to immediately reinstall, once maintenance is complete.
2. Load 5 pieces of empty brass in the mag (for safety)
3. Ensure rifle bolt is closed
3. Insert mag in magazine well
4. Mark the follower with a pen, through the existing rivet hole
5. Remove follower and trim out a slot to the top of the pen mark (plus 1/32" higher to allow for rivet expansion). The slot only needs to be wide enough to clear the expanded shank diameter of the rivet you are about to re-install
6. Re-install rivet immediately
7. Ensure there is absolutely no way to fit 6 rounds in the magazine
8. Enjoy
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Be sure to do it IMMEDIATELY! The SWAT team is on their way and you must have it back in before they get there. They'll know as soon as you get the rivet back in and will turn around and go back to the station.

Relax, you can take your time and do this completely legally. You are making repairs not prepping to rob a bank.
Trimming the follower might be best as it should only need about an 1/8 of an inch or less. Do it little by little till it works as you can't put the material back on. If you drill the rivet do it gently because if you press hard on the drill bit the rivet will get hot and the plastic will get soft and you will have to drill into the front spine or the side for the next rivet hole, don't ask how I know this :p .

This isn't that complicated, just do it and go shooting.
 
The "immediately" step was to add to the above hysteria.
Don't push too hard on the drill, or the rivet could spin. Use a sharp 1/8" bit and let it do the work.
 
Northpoint said:
The "immediately" step was to add to the above hysteria.
Don't push too hard on the drill, or the rivet could spin. Use a sharp 1/8" bit and let it do the work.
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Just love how worried people get, maybe the man has video surveillance in all our homes. :nest:
SWAT team is bored, give them a reason to turn on the siren. :stirthepot2:

And my all time favorite just for fun :kickInTheNuts:

So RTS, is your mag fixed yet?
 
Not yet, I want to do it right this time and not bugger the 6 offenders. 2 won't take 5 rounds, 4 will barely,.. but no room for workability or inserting under a closed bolt which is rare anyhow. Both Gen2 and 3.

Another Pmag question. Why are the Gen 3 blue followers not reliably tripping my hold open latch? Gen2's are fine as well as any USGI mag on hand. They seem to have more freeplay in my magwell fore and aft, and the rear of the follower seems a tad further forward in the mag body. This is an NEA lower mind you, and the mags work ok in the Nork and the Armalite. Maybe I need a new latch it has more freeplay than the Armalite.
 
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