P13 chambered in 303?

[ratherbefishin]

I was under the impression the P13 was chambered in .276,and the P14 was 303-but a member has a P13 for sale[sporterized] in 303.

Would this be rebarreled-or would it be a transitional model from .276 to 303?Were they only manufactured in the US?anybody able to clarify this?

 

[tiriaq]

No doubt rebarrelled.
Would it have been rebarrelled and reworked to .303 to produce a usable rifle for issue? Or to make a sporter that accepted available ammunition?
I know of a P-13 action used as the basis of a target rifle.
Were any P-13s reworked into .303 as proof of concept prototypes for the P-14? I don't know. Barrel proofs and date would be significant.
How sporterized? If the original stock is cut back, does it have the characteristic finger grooves.
As far as I know, these rifles were UK made. The P-14s and M-1917s were US made.

 

[ratherbefishin]

NEWMER has it listed under EE -Hunting Rifles for sale-including pictures and barrel stamps.I pm'd him and he isn't sure so I said I would ask here to see if anyone else has any idea

 

[Andy]

Being "registered as a P13" does not make it a P13.

I suggest that it's a P14 that has been incorrectly registered as a P13. Nothing in the (poor) pics makes me think otherwise, but I'm no expert on these things. If I thought otherwise, I would have bought it in an instant.

Regardless, it's a nice sporter and priced to sell.

 

[myenfield]

Here's a thread where I posted photos of an actual Pattern 1913 sporter in .276. I am willing to bet the rifle in question in the original post is simply registered incorrectly. If the owner would let us know how many digits are in the serial number we can probably solve the mystery, since only a few thousand P'13s were ever made.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485498&highlight=pattern+1913&page=3

 

[tiriaq]

The rifle looks for all the world like one of the P-14s that BSA sporterized in the 1950s.
Good hunting rifles.

 

[RRCo.]

It's not a P13, the long serial number can be seen stamped on the receiver ring.

 

[Gibbs505]

Only 1257 were made according to Stratton. If you can find one, expect to pay a lot!!!!

 

[ratherbefishin]

since the rifle has been ''sporterized''anyway [I refuse to call a fine conversion of a military rifle into a hunting rifle ''bubba'd''] I'm wondering-as far as a hunting rifle-which would be better-the Lee Enfield or the P14?

 

[cosmic]

Well - The LE is lighter, cycles better, and has a detachable mag... P-14's are not noted for feeding particularly well. BSA modified the feed rails on their P-14 sporters to this end. Unfortunately, the mod often makes matters worse - as I have seen on two BSA's.

 

[Newmer]

There is 1 letter, "M" at the start, and 4 digits in the serial number. Sorry for the poor pictures, I'm not a great photographer.

 

[wheaty]

Sure got me excited when a Patt:13 was mentioned.....I have a spare British Patt:13 .276 barrel !!!!

 

[smellie]

The P-`14 might not be the slickest-feeding rifle ever made, but it has one thing going for it: accuracy. That heavy barrel, plus Enfield rifling, can do some amazing things. I have a Bubba P-14 and a BSA sporter M-1917. Both are scoped because they are both one-holers if you feed them what they want. P-14 likes the Hornady 150 over 40 of 4064, seating so the cannelure shows. Nice and quick and cheap oin targets because you use the same hole all day long.

Wheaty, I just read your post. Think I`m going to head down to the cardiac ward and check myself in for a few days.

OTOH, there are some P-14s about with low numbers. W305 is hiding around here somewhere. Second pre-production batch from Winchester, a I rifle starred to I*, real early barrel date. I need wood for it.
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