P14 Value?

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I've got a Remington P14 in very good condition - contemplating selling it but I have no idea what it's worth.

I realize photos are the best to post, however I haven't got any at the moment.

The metal seems to be all matching & completely unmolested - rear sight, barrel, action, and bolt all match. The wood appears to be original, but the disk in the butt stock has been removed and filled with wood. There are faint traces of stamps on the butt stocks close to where the disk would have been. Volley sights were removed, however the front sight base is still on the side of the stock with the graduation markings on it. Sling loops are still on it as well. The wood is in very good condition over all - no big scrapes, gouges, or repairs.

Bore reflects use, but is again in great condition.

I understand asking and selling prices can have some spread between them - so what's something like this worth?

Thanks CGN'ers
 
Disc being removed and filled with wood - pretty sure that was a Weedon repair thing, same with the stud being removed from the front volley sight base, and the rear volley sight ground off the bolt stop spring rest. Good condition stock set, especially if you can cipher out what the actual markings are / were, might be $300 or more by themselves. Your receiver might be stamped "RE" within an oval to indicate a Remington receiver - specific marks on butt stock near that circular patch will identify whether that is still an original Remington stock or not. Several hundred dollars difference there, I would think? "Sported" versions - "moose guns" - with sawn off wood, but rest of the metal untouched, seem to go under $300 on EE. Markings on all the metal pieces should be checked - if made by Remington, will have an "R" on them. Besides sling swivels, does it still have the stacking swivel? Are they all correctly marked and off set, or have they been swapped out with No. 4 swivels? I have several here - some ended up by home workshop guys substituting M1917 parts (which do fit and will work, in some cases). A good reference book I found on Amazon.ca is "Pattern 1914 and U.S Model of 1917 Rifles" by Charles Stratton. What your rifle is "worth" will depend on what it is made of, what you know about it, and what a buyer knows about what it should be. So, best I would guesstimate is $500 to $800.

P14 were kind of a "work in progress" - originally the P13 was designed to use the 276 Enfield cartridge - about 1,100 or so actually made in Britain, and distributed for "field testing" - with outbreak of WWI, hurry up to get more 303 British rifles made. Machinery moved to USA to Winchester, Remington, and Eddystone plants - no blue prints - each "reverse engineered" samples provided and came up with their own manufacturing tolerances and parts suppliers. Well known that many parts from W, E or R would not easily interchange, to the extent that Britain eventually adopted them as 3 separate rifles. Then, mid-WWI, was changed again into M1917 using 30-06 cartridges, now being made for USA - so myriad of parts that "sort of" fit and work, no doubt lots of "make it work" over the years. Significant overhaul programs by British after WWI. Spare stocks, for sure, being made by contractors in Britain during WWII. So, can get to be a "collection" within one rifle. Sort of a misnomer to refer to a rifle as "a P14" because there were several genuine versions of it over the years... besides the civilian "moose guns" that were made up from the milsurps that were very inexpensive following WWII.

When I say "very inexpensive", a poster here on CGN had mentioned wholesalers in Canada receiving pallets of them for a few cents per pound...

P.S. Almost forgot. Part way through P14 production, the left (upper) bolt lug was lengthened, which required a circular groove to be cut in rear of barrel, part ways around the chamber. Most, but not all, previous were retrofitted. This will be indicated by a "star" or "asterisk" being stamped on receiver and some other parts - designated that rifle as a Mk.1* version. Significant to some. If your serial numbers on barrel, receiver and bolt match - they should all have had the change or not had the change. Nice touch to have the rear sight with the same matching serial number, as it should be.
 
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I've got a US model of 1917 Enfield in unaltered condition with the red paint around the forend. Slight freckled with fine rust all over sadly from poor storage. What's it worth?
 
mhowarth said:
I've got a Remington P14 in very good condition - contemplating selling it but I have no idea what it's worth.

I realize photos are the best to post, however I haven't got any at the moment.

The metal seems to be all matching & completely unmolested - rear sight, barrel, action, and bolt all match. The wood appears to be original, but the disk in the butt stock has been removed and filled with wood. There are faint traces of stamps on the butt stocks close to where the disk would have been. Volley sights were removed, however the front sight base is still on the side of the stock with the graduation markings on it. Sling loops are still on it as well. The wood is in very good condition over all - no big scrapes, gouges, or repairs.

Bore reflects use, but is again in great condition.

I understand asking and selling prices can have some spread between them - so what's something like this worth?

Thanks CGN'ers
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Most P14s in Canada have been through the Weedon Repair Standard, I wouldn't take any less than $650 if I was selling and would likely be asking more.

Rugdoc said:
I've got a US model of 1917 Enfield in unaltered condition with the red paint around the forend. Slight freckled with fine rust all over sadly from poor storage. What's it worth?
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Decent shape RCAF 1917s have been pushing $850 lately and higher. Pricing will be dictated by condition and lack of alteration of course. Pictures are needed for useful info.
 
Wow - thank you so much for the detailed response! I sincerely appreciate it!

I'm considering thinning my collection in the wake of this COVID nonsense and it's impact on work... perhaps I should be looking at this rifle more as an investment vs "money tied up".

It's awesome to have an idea on it's value in the event I do have to part with it.
 
Hi
might be wrong but didnt the red paint mean the same as drill purpose

the old traffic light system green good,yellow use with care, red stop

cheers
 
I think that I read that the red paint thing was to identify a M1917 (which uses 30-06 cartridge). The rifle otherwise looks very much like the P14 (which uses 303 British cartridge). Would suck trying to get anything done while loaded down with ammo for a different rifle... I had read that 303 British was pretty much standard British and Canadian chambering, until the M1917 came along.
 
Yes and no. In the case of american M1917s that saw service here, the red meant don’t put 303 in it.



britinbc said:
Hi
might be wrong but didnt the red paint mean the same as drill purpose

the old traffic light system green good,yellow use with care, red stop

cheers
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First P14 I bought was off the old Guntrader mag, bitter sweet, it was set up as a target rifle, PH 5B rear, and PH front globe attached to the ground down FSB, bedded in a M1917 stock, great shooting rifle someone spent some money on, but it was a 4 digit serial number ERA...built in the first month of production.
Probably still ok at $300, but man I wish it was all original.
 
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