paper license conditions must be kept with PAL card?

[dave37]

Just got my PAL last week--hooray!--and checked the card to make sure there were no errors, read the paper is was stuck to, and it says to detach the bottom part and keep with card (did of course) as a Peace Officer may demand the paper portion to verify licence conditions.

Has anyone heard of problems if the paper portion is not produced? I'm trying to comprehend why a piece of low tech paper is required to be kept to verify a very hard to fraudulently produce PAL card.

thanks!

 

[masterjack792]

It's just one more nonsense thing they can probably lay charges for.....

...but for what it's worth, I don't know anyone who carries it. I just keep it tucked away with all my original registration certificates.

 

[dave37]

You're likely correct, I made a copy of the paper portion and will keep it with the card just in case.

 

[Claybuster]

Unless there are specific conditions attached to your licence then the answer is no. Throw it away. I did.

 

[Yogi05]

An identical post earlier in the week.

I said it then and I'll say it again, I've never even seen one of those condition sheets that I can remember. And I go back aways.

Is there conditions remarked on yours Dave37?

 

[Colin]

the conditions of your PAL are stated on the back, such as; Non-restricted, restricted

 

[dave37]

There are no conditions listed on the paper, the back of my pal lists non restricted and restricted as it should.

 

[TERMINATOR101CA]

I always keep a white piece of paper........they'd never be able to tell it's not the one from the back of the PAL.....

 

[calalta]

Do a search.

 

[bush24]

NO, we don't carry that paper unless there is a condition. The only condition I ever saw was with a Minor's Licence, when in possession of a firearm, "Adult, PAL supervision until the age of 16" At the age of 16, the condition can be removed by the Parent/Guardian until eligible for a PAL at 18yrs of age.

 

[huntinguy]

So oif you don't carry it, and they ask to see it. How do you prove there are no conditions if you don't have it?

 

[fozzybear]

As a police officer with a little bit of knowledge about our firearm laws, I would say that providing a valid PAL is all that is required.

Unfortunately, many police officers do not know much or anything about the current firearm laws in Canada (I was one of them). To be fair, they are very complicated and constantly changing.

I can't say that it is a 100 percent guarantee but 99 out of 100 times, your PAL should do the trick.

 

[calalta]

So oif you don't carry it, and they ask to see it. How do you prove there are no conditions if you don't have it?

Because your licence states that Standard Conditions apply not Special Conditions.

 

[smokepole9]

How do you get a replacement if you lost the letter?

 

[kps1911]

Alright, here's my understanding of this silliness...

Your pal (and I'll use my newly renewed copy) has on the front a little section that says "Standard Conditions...blah blah" or it might say "Special Conditions...blah blah". If it says "Standard Conditions" you're fine and do not have to carry the paper version.

If however, you have "Special Conditions" on the front of your PAL, then you better have the paper version with the description of the actual conditions.

Let me illustrate:

Standard PAL with "Standard Conditions"

Paper version indicating "Standard Conditions" being nothing more than your requirement to call the RCMP within 30 days if you change addresses.

"Special Conditions" in my case are empty.

Hope this clears some of it up. If my understanding is not correct please let us know with a link to the actual citation.