Parker Hale model help

Its likely a 1200C with a replacement stock. C stands for clip. If it doesn't have a thumb cutout of the receiver wall, the action was made by Santa Barbara in Spain, likely in the 80's or 90's.
 
Parker Hale (in England) was bought out by Gibbs (in USA) - at that time, most all PH corporate records were incinerated - so serial number references from PH no longer exist. Gibbs went bankrupt some years later - Numrich (in USA) bought much of Gibb's stock at the bankruptcy sale - why you can often get "new" Parker Hale parts, in original PH packaging, from Numrich.

I have various PH catalogues from 1970's and various "order books" from Canadian wholesalers at that time. A parts list shows identical part numbers for parts for Parker Hale 1000, 1100 and 1200 Models - except for the stocks - it is probable that only the stock was the difference among those three models. All three were offered in both hinged floor plate versions, or detachable magazine versions. Your rifle, on the barrel's bottom, under the chamber area, if that barrel is original, with have the crossed pennants of the Birmingham Proof House - that stamp will tell you the year that barrel / receiver and bolt was "proofed". That is probably the most definitive way to establish a year of manufacture for it. Then, you can look at catalogues for that year to find out which models were offered in 243 Win.

Go here, how to "translate" that Birmingham Proof Stamp into a year: https://www.hallowellco.com/proof_date_codes.htm
 
cosmic said:
Its likely a 1200C with a replacement stock. C stands for clip. If it doesn't have a thumb cutout of the receiver wall, the action was made by Santa Barbara in Spain, likely in the 80's or 90's.
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Likely Santa Barbara; earlier ones with the thumb-cut were German actions; some mention also of FN commercial actions (early may have cut, later not), maybe even some Zastava actions? Nothing definitive, but generally quite good rifles.
 
cosmic said:
Its likely a 1200C with a replacement stock. C stands for clip. If it doesn't have a thumb cutout of the receiver wall, the action was made by Santa Barbara in Spain, likely in the 80's or 90's.
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I do not know how to tell the difference between Parker Hale models 1000C, 1100C and 1200C, if it is not in the original stock. There might be a way to do so, but I do not know what that is. I have a Parker Hale rifle here that I "put together" - is chambered in 308 Win - was three separate purchases on CGN - a barrelled action with the bolt and lower metal pieces, a stock and a detachable magazine. All "fit" together and function fine - but I have no clue what model it is. Triggers used to be able to be purchased separately - I have bought "loose" Parker Hale triggers on CGN.

It appears that Parker Hale used the Italian company SILE to make stocks, if they did not use former military stocks - has been at least a dozen examples examined, and all are stamped "SILE" inside the stock - under the metal - but I do not think any particular stock was marked to belong to any particular action. It does not appear that the serial numbers were used in any understandable order - they were NOT used sequentially - and is various letters as pre-fix on various PH receivers - the serial number might have been stamped there by the receiver maker when it was made - which was NOT Parker Hale in England.
 
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Potashminer said:
I do not know how to tell the difference between Parker Hale models 1000C, 1100C and 1200C, if it is not in the original stock. There might be a way to do so, but I do not know what that is. I have a Parker Hale rifle here that I "put together" - is chambered in 308 Win - was three separate purchases on CGN - a barrelled action with the bolt and lower metal pieces, a stock and a detachable magazine. All "fit" together and function fine - but I have no clue what model it is. Triggers used to be able to be purchased separately - I have bought "loose" Parker Hale triggers on CGN.

It appears that Parker Hale used the Italian company SILE to make stocks, if they did not use former military stocks - has been at least a dozen examples examined, and all are stamped "SILE" inside the stock - under the metal - but I do not think any particular stock was marked to belong to any particular action. It does not appear that the serial numbers were used in any understandable order - they were NOT used sequentially - and is various letters as pre-fix on various PH receivers - the serial number might have been stamped there by the receiver maker when it was made - which was NOT Parker Hale in England.
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Agree, except I've never seen a PH from the factory in an ex military stock. They did use captured receivers from ww2 early on. All the commercial PH's I've owned had Santa Barbara receivers. Which were good receivers, right up until the end. When PH folded, quite a few receivers got sold off without proper heat treating, so there are some bad ones out there. Few and far between though. - dan
 
The only Parker Hale rifle that I have seen with the original military stock (I think) - were the bottom grades of four grades that they made from No. 4 Lee Enfield rifles. Is hard to say if the stock on there now was from Parker Hale factory, or from another rifle - there used to be thousands of them around!!! I have also owned and sold stock sets (as used on Parker Hale Supreme grade or Custom grade), marked by SILE, for No. 4 Lee Enfield, but had no rifle in them - so is likely on somebody's rifle these days. From ads of theirs, I think they also made four grades of conversions of the Lee Enfield No. 1 rifles, but I do not know if they used military wood for any of them or not.
 
Potashminer said:
The only Parker Hale rifle that I have seen with the original military stock (I think) - were the bottom grades of four grades that they made from No. 4 Lee Enfield rifles. Is hard to say if the stock on there now was from Parker Hale factory, or from another rifle - there used to be thousands of them around!!! I have also owned and sold stock sets (as used on Parker Hale Supreme grade or Custom grade), marked by SILE, for No. 4 Lee Enfield, but had no rifle in them - so is likely on somebody's rifle these days. From ads of theirs, I think they also made four grades of conversions of the Lee Enfield No. 1 rifles, but I do not know if they used military wood for any of them or not.
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I see. I was referring to their Mauser and commercial Mauser builds. Their LE rifles were not something I spent much time or money on. - dan
 
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