Parts switch from one production legal gun to another
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Yes. The Glock extended mag release is factory optional on the Glock 17. As an OEM part, supplied for that particular make and model, it is production legal. If you require further confirmation, register at http://ipsc.invisionzone.com/ and read through the many threads on Production division in the rules section. The IPSC Secretary has specifically stated that the extended mag release is acceptable.
The thing to keep in mind is that IPSC PD allows the changing of parts for other OEM parts, the gun does not have to meet a certain 'fixed' configuration.
The THE Accessories mag release would not be acceptable as it is not made by Glock.
The Oval glock mag release would not be acceptable as the frame has to be modified to take the mag release.
The thing to keep in mind is that IPSC PD allows the changing of parts for other OEM parts, the gun does not have to meet a certain 'fixed' configuration.
The THE Accessories mag release would not be acceptable as it is not made by Glock.
The Oval glock mag release would not be acceptable as the frame has to be modified to take the mag release.
I know. All I am going by here is what my BB instructor told me. That IPSC Canada or Ontario where enforcing a stricter version of the rules and that any modification had to be a factory option not just a OEM part. I think I will just email the Canada and Ontario heads and get it from them.
The Glock extended mag release is considered a factory option, perhaps not in the sense that there is a list of options that you can select from when purchasing your Glock.
My understanding is that a large order (I can only assume it was a Police Department) once went out with extended mag releases, therefore, they are allowed in production division. The same with the 3.5# disconnector. I dunno. I've given up trying to understand what is PD legal and not anymore.
My understanding is that a large order (I can only assume it was a Police Department) once went out with extended mag releases, therefore, they are allowed in production division. The same with the 3.5# disconnector. I dunno. I've given up trying to understand what is PD legal and not anymore.
Reading over my rule book I think the problem here is the interpretation of rule 19 in Appendix D4.
“ Original parts and components offered by the OFM as standard equipment , or as an option, for a specific model handgun on the IPSC approved handgun list are permitted, subject to the following”
Some people have interpreted that to mean the part has to be orderable option on the gun from the OFM.
Where IPSC world and Vince interpret that to mean that if the OFM makes the part and list it for use in your model gun you are GTG. They don’t actually have to build any guns with that part in them.
“ Original parts and components offered by the OFM as standard equipment , or as an option, for a specific model handgun on the IPSC approved handgun list are permitted, subject to the following”
Some people have interpreted that to mean the part has to be orderable option on the gun from the OFM.
Where IPSC world and Vince interpret that to mean that if the OFM makes the part and list it for use in your model gun you are GTG. They don’t actually have to build any guns with that part in them.
Correct. If the part requires cutting or polishing to fit, then it isn't Ok, unless it is done at the factory.
Thus the G17 extended mag release, which is a drop in part, can be fitted aftermarket. The SP01 competition hammer, which may require gunsmithing, is only legal if it is a drop in fit or if it came fitted from the factory.
I see this as a reasonable interpretation as one is a mass produced part that could have been fitted on the assemby line, the other is apparently a semi finished product that in effect has to be 'manufactured' by the installing gunsmith.
The Australian importer of SP01s is now trying to get CZ to fit the competition hammers at the factory, instead of sending them as a loose part. He also brings in Glocks and can fit the mag release, slide release and change the sights himself.
Thus the G17 extended mag release, which is a drop in part, can be fitted aftermarket. The SP01 competition hammer, which may require gunsmithing, is only legal if it is a drop in fit or if it came fitted from the factory.
I see this as a reasonable interpretation as one is a mass produced part that could have been fitted on the assemby line, the other is apparently a semi finished product that in effect has to be 'manufactured' by the installing gunsmith.
The Australian importer of SP01s is now trying to get CZ to fit the competition hammers at the factory, instead of sending them as a loose part. He also brings in Glocks and can fit the mag release, slide release and change the sights himself.
Got the answer I was looking for from Sean.
It has nothing to do with them making the gun with any particular part. 19;D4 basically is that the part only needs to be a OEM part marketed by the OFM as being for that model of gun and not requiring modification to the gun or part to install.
It has nothing to do with them making the gun with any particular part. 19;D4 basically is that the part only needs to be a OEM part marketed by the OFM as being for that model of gun and not requiring modification to the gun or part to install.
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It depends on which gun is inspected. The popular brands (Glock, CZ, and Beretta) the guys (chrono) will know what is legal and what isnt. If somebody does a trigger job to HK, baby eagle, or even a para i would doubt the people will know what is legal and what isnt. This is a rule that is unmanagable and shouldnt be enforced. 5 lbs first shot and leave it at that.
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What I don't understand is I am getting a reduced hammer spring for my "L" Tanfoglio to lighten what has to be the heavies D/A pull I have ever encountered in a firearm. Factory part. What the heck is the difference between the reduced factory spring and a reduced Wolfe spring???? Just doesn't make any sense to me. Set the minimum poundage for D/A pull and be done with it. I would install the Wolfe spring except Gunnar is my 'smith and I would not want to put him or myself in a bad position. I'll play by the rules but is is going to cost more for the factory spring than a Wolfe I'll bet money on that.
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