Pedersoli Charleville 1766 ?

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I've never owned or fired a smokepole. Nonetheless, I've had this lingering desire, for several years now, to own a working Cherleville. I like the history I guess and think it would be a hoot to shoot. I'm not into collecting as such so the reproduction would suit me.

How is the Pedersolli Charleville 1766 for:

Quality ?
Function ?
Resale value ?

I know I'll need to buy a couple of kinds of black powder, flints, and other stuff and I expect the thing will be a phucker to clean. Anything else ?

All advice, including don't do it :D, is welcome, Thanx.
 
The quality and function of all pedersoli guns is quite good. Re sale value is hit and miss, the market up here is somewhat small an you would probably have to sell it at a loss to sell it in any reasonable amount of time.

As for cleaning, soap and hot water and you just oil it after!

There are lots of things you will need if you get one, track of the wolf is your best bet !

Cheers, McLean
 
A charleville or a bess both are excellent buys, the large military lock provides reliable nearly foolproof ignition.

The 1766 is my favourite of the french military muskets.

Here's mine, she was a 34 year old unbuilt Japanese miroku kit that I lucked onto and happily assembled and finished, she gives excellent fire.
One of my favourite arms.
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Thanx Guys ! I just bought myself one. Now I'll go browse Track of the Wolf for flints, patches & wotnot.

Do these really fire patched glass marbles or is that a no no ?
 
Sure you could fire a patched glass ball but I imagine the performance of them would be far worse then a nice basic cast lead ball in a traditional paper cartridge.
 
Musketfire said:
Sure you could fire a patched glass ball but I imagine the performance of them would be far worse then a nice basic cast lead ball in a traditional paper cartridge.
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Thanx Musketfire. I'll order some ball from Track of the Wolf. They have a help form on their Website so I've asked them about what caliber I'll need and for other suggestions for a newbie starter kit. I'm looking forward to my first shot with a musket.
 
Found this on another forum:

In response to ricky

Howdy, found (googled), your 'Charlie' an found this;

FR1045 Pedersoli 1766 Charleville Musket $1,350.00
The Model 1766 Charleville is based on the first regulation French military musket -- the so-called Model of 1717. This reproduction features a European walnut fullstock 57 1/2" long with satin finish, 2 1/2" drop and 13 1/4" trigger pull. Barrel is armory bright .69 caliber smoothbore, round tapared 1.300" at breech to .840" at muzzle. Flintlock uses 1" flints. All steel furniture is armory bright, lockplate is marked "Charleville". Steel ramrod with trumpet shaped head and 10x32 thread. Gun is 60" in overall length and weighs 10 1/2 lbs. Load with 80 grains FFg black powder and patched .680 round ball. Made by Pedersoli in Italy. REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL $16.00 OVERSIZE CHARGE.
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That about sum it up as far as flint size and powder charge ?

Thanx
 
I prefer the large "black english" flints 1" minimum in my charleville and bess, they wear out and break and fracture so if they are a bit big at the start they will shorten in a few rounds.

80 grains is a good load, but you can use less or more depending on your own experience and what your musket likes maybe start at 60 and work your way up.

A good Idea would be to join up with a good reenacting group in your area, you will quickly become quite familure with your arm when you go through the steps on the move.

You can use ball ,buck and ball or shot with your musket, it is a very adaptable arm, the charleville gets real hot to handle after 10 -15 rounds with all those steel bands ;) theres a reason the British kept to the pinned barrel pattern for so long.
 
Thanx everyone, and particularly Musketfire, for your valuable feedback. There is a local Black Powder group operating in my town and I'll be approaching them for membership. Track of the Wolf have been great to deal with, as has Dixie Gunworks. Time to take a breather now and let my credit card cool down a bit. :D
 
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