Pedersoli rifles ??

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Why in the world are these rifles sooo much money and what do most guys use them for? I see these "Pedersoli 1874 Sharps" for $2000 at times :confused: Don't have anything against them or their owners, Im just curious as to why they cost so much?

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Once you get '74 Sharps up around 2k you would probably happier in the long run with a US made gun....either C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps. While they are all repros, the US made ones are truer to the orig., better fitted, use the same type materials. Some of the early Pedersoli guns had problems with heat treating and if you look at the hammer on some you will see evidence of the soft steel. Sharps repro are exp. do to both demand and expense to produce...fitting a buttstock on a '74 is the hardest of all 2 pc. stocks.
 
You dont have to spend that much to get a Pedersoli action. My Ruger no 1 is a falling block 223 and is my baby. Deadly accurate for varmints and target but I just love the action. Check out the Uberti site. Some are in the $1100-$1500 range and are very well made. I wouldnt ante up for an original but a well made new version I could be interested in. Nothin quite like it. Either you like them or not. Likely they are expensive mostly because they arent made in the gazillions like the current regular long guns. Lefties like me like them cause there is no right hand stuff. But thats my $0.02
 
If you don't like the price of a repro '74 Sharps, what do you think of the rolling blocks? There are alot of antique ones floating around these days just waiting for a new Badger barrel and some fancy sights.
 
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but I was told the Ruger No 1 is a current version of the Pedersoli Action. I am aware the there are 2 different pedersolis-the action itself and the company Davide Pedersoli. It is a falling block but I cant see a mechanical breakdown of any of the Pedersoli arms stuff to get an idea. Besides I am watching this thread cause I really get off on the falling block and rolling block actions. Huge happy in the pants. Mmmmmm Sharps...
 
bogie said:
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but I was told the Ruger No 1 is a current version of the Pedersoli Action. I am aware the there are 2 different pedersolis-the action itself and the company Davide Pedersoli. It is a falling block but I cant see a mechanical breakdown of any of the Pedersoli arms stuff to get an idea. Besides I am watching this thread cause I really get off on the falling block and rolling block actions. Huge happy in the pants. Mmmmmm Sharps...
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The No. 1 is a copy of the old Farquarson action, but with some additions.
Cat
 
Ok Cat or others out there-where can I see a blowup of these different actions to get a better idea of what they look like in a drawing? And whats the difference between the Farqueson and the Pedersoli action. Think I remember what a rolling block is but I would like to get into this stuff and would like to know what to ask for. Bolts and semis get boring after a while. I want something more interesting to play with-like the No 1. Thats getting there at least. Thanks
 
There are books you can buy that are about single shots only, check out the Buffalo Arms website for the books and pictures of diff. single shots. Note that the Pedersoli is not an action type, all they make are repros,copies of '74 Sharps, Win. Highwalls, rolling blocks, etc. I collect and use single shots for target and game, some are orig. some are repros, and I haven't had good luck with the italian copies so I avoid them. Also note that the ruger #1 is a modern action, and does not have an external hammer. It is not legal for some Black Powder Cartridge events.
 
Sorry for jacking the thread-not my intention but picking up so much. I have read a couple of articles recently referring to Pedersoli actions and made the assumption. Must have been talking about actions bought from them..
Since Uberti is not up to snuff what brands should I look at
?Heading up to the Kamloops gun show this weekend and I will do some serious looking. Muchas grass guys.
 
ben hunchak said:
There are books you can buy that are about single shots only, check out the Buffalo Arms website for the books and pictures of diff. single shots. Note that the Pedersoli is not an action type, all they make are repros,copies of '74 Sharps, Win. Highwalls, rolling blocks, etc. I collect and use single shots for target and game, some are orig. some are repros, and I haven't had good luck with the italian copies so I avoid them. Also note that the ruger #1 is a modern action, and does not have an external hammer. It is not legal for some Black Powder Cartridge events.
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I have a Uberti highwall carbine(28"barrel) in 40/65, and it is a great shooter, but if I was going to build something to shoot BPCR with , it would bve a Martini action, for a few reasons.
One , they can be had for a decent price.
Two,they can be torn done very easily for cleaning.
Three, althhough being hammerless, they are legal.
The last one is a real bone of contention forr me.
I have seen lots of cooeys on a trap line up, because they have a hammer and are legal.
My original 16 gauge Renington with damascus barrels, is NOT legal because it is hammerless.

A martini can be used , although it is hammerless, because of its history.
The Ruger cannot however, becauuse it has no history.

This point is not going to make the difference in a win or lose placing for ANYBODY IMHO, because once you start putting barrels on, etc. it is the shooter who is going to win, not the rifle action type.

Case in point . The rolling block is not the best action around, but it gets used a lot is wins.
I myself think that there is too much snobery in some of these rules .
I remember when the Buffalo classic first came out and the great hullabaloo about it not being allowed for whatever reasons, till it was actually proved that it is as old and has as rich a history as the Sharps.

The only bad thing about a Ruger No.1 is it is toher to tear down that a Sharps ( the Sharps ONLY redeaming quality IMHO).

As far as a hunting rig goes, the Ruger is a great rifle, as is the No3.
I could live with a Sharps carbine to hunt with, but I would have a hard time buying one for a decent price I think.

Cat
 
The Ruger #1, the Martini, and the Sharps Borchardt, are not legal for BPCR Silhouette, as they do not have external hammers. The only other downfall to the Martini is that it can't be cleaned(easily) from the breech, important to BP shooters. It depends on the individual but I prefer the looks of the Sharps '74 and the Win. Highwall, followed by the Rolling Block, and Rem. Hepburn. The only affordable orig. one of these is the rolling block(under 1K).
 
The Pedersoli sharps are NOT made of soft metal. That's ludicrous.

Unlike the C. Sharps and Shilo made guns, Pedersoli PROOF FIRES its offerings and they likely are safer guns to shoot than the US makers, on average - not to say the US guns are unsafe. they are really great (if overpriced) guns.

Yes, they are expensive. Have you ever had one up close? I've owned several and even have one for sale in the EE right now for FAR less than $2000.

The cost is due to the all steel construction, the machining involved (no stamped parts here!) and the color case hardening finish, along with the nicer grade european walnut stocks.

They are probably overpriced in general (supply & demand is to blame), but they are more reasonably priced than the US made guns are IMHO.

If cost is such a factor, H&R makes a cheap .45-70 break action for what? $400 or so?
 
Claven2 be careful using the word ludicrous, it is a well known fact around BPCR/Single shot circles that some Pedersolis had probs. with heat treating and you can tell(not scientific) by marks on the hammer face. Similar guns made by US makers show none of the softness on similar parts. The US models are semi custom made to order and that may account for the higher price.
Oh, and i did look up "ludicous" in the dictionary...."inability to tell the difference between a Win. Highwall and a Moisin Nagant"
 
ben hunchak said:
The Ruger #1, the Martini, and the Sharps Borchardt, are not legal for BPCR Silhouette, as they do not have external hammers. The only other downfall to the Martini is that it can't be cleaned(easily) from the breech, important to BP shooters. It depends on the individual but I prefer the looks of the Sharps '74 and the Win. Highwall, followed by the Rolling Block, and Rem. Hepburn. The only affordable orig. one of these is the rolling block(under 1K).
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Ben I was led to believe the martini is legal for ABPA BPCR shooting.:confused:
NRA maybe not?
I'll have to check.
Cat
 
ben hunchak said:
The Ruger #1, the Martini, and the Sharps Borchardt, are not legal for BPCR Silhouette, as they do not have external hammers. The only other downfall to the Martini is that it can't be cleaned(easily) from the breech, important to BP shooters. It depends on the individual but I prefer the looks of the Sharps '74 and the Win. Highwall, followed by the Rolling Block, and Rem. Hepburn. The only affordable orig. one of these is the rolling block(under 1K).
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The Martini action can be used in some BPCR matches in Alberta annd B.C. but not he Ruger.
They both can be used in DCRA competition, as can receiver sights and tube sights.
DCRA competition is a shot with paper targets however, at long range , not silhouette, the two are are completely different shooting diciplines, but are often confused.....
Cat
 
Its NRA BPCR Sillywhet that doesn't allow any gun(pre'98) without a hammer, they don't allow anything other than real Black powder either. i wish Cowboy action was as principled.
 
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