Peep on Gew98 Mauser?

[Fox]

I realize that I do not want to deal with modifying the bolt to fit a scope but I am curious if there is a peep that works, with just a couple holes or without drilling at tapping for the receiver of the Gew98 Mauser, or more specifically the Kar98A, which is not the Kar98K WWII rifle.

Thanks

 

[tiriaq]

If you have an intact K98A, drilling holes in the receiver would be a really bad idea.
Conventional peep sights, like the Williams, require two holes on the right side of the rear bridge, perhaps a notch in the stock might be needed as well. Perhaps $100 installed, with a reduction in value of several hundreds if the rifle is as issued.
There are vintage sights that mount on the cocking piece or bolt stop that would not require receiver alteration. Hard to find and expensive if found.

 

[OkayShooter]

I wish the mojo sights were more common.

Replaces the rear leaf sight with a peep. Had my K98 out last week and remembered why I barely use it.

 

[Decker9]

My GEW has a peep on the cocking piece. Iv seen the setup a few times, I believe most good smiths can do this without much issue, if you’re looking for a peep on the cocking piece.

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[Fox]

If you have an intact K98A, drilling holes in the receiver would be a really bad idea.
Conventional peep sights, like the Williams, require two holes on the right side of the rear bridge, perhaps a notch in the stock might be needed as well. Perhaps $100 installed, with a reduction in value of several hundreds if the rifle is as issued.
There are vintage sights that mount on the cocking piece or bolt stop that would not require receiver alteration. Hard to find and expensive if found.

100%

I was told that the guy I got it from had all the metal bits still around, just the stock was tossed. I found a guy who made stocks in Poland, would be $600 Canadian to get a new stock, but with the cost of the rifle, etc, it would make perfect sense to drop it into a repop stock.

My buddy grabbed the bag of parts and threw it my way, had a hinged floor plate, original Parker Hale trigger with side safety, replacement M98 firing pin and cocking piece and some sling swivels.

At this point I do not see this as a viable rebuild, unless I some day came across a Kar98A that happened to have a everything but a useful action and barrel (not likely). So my thought now is a rear peep sight to make the gun reasonable to use but not modifying the bolt. This way if that really rare chance at a rifle for a swap does happen I could have an as issued rifle with 2 tapped holes in the receiver.

Either that or shoot it with the irons as is now and deal with the gun not hitting point of aim, which is less useful.

 

[Fox]

My GEW has a peep on the cocking piece. Iv seen the setup a few times, I believe most good smiths can do this without much issue, if you’re looking for a peep on the cocking piece.

mouse test online

This would be great, if the cost was not insane, but mine would keep the original rear sight, or at least the sight base.

 

[Fox]

I wish the mojo sights were more common.

Replaces the rear leaf sight with a peep. Had my K98 out last week and remembered why I barely use it.

Your K98 or a Kar98a? They are a very different beast, the K98 is easy to find parts, this is the WWII unit, the Kar98a is a rare animal.

 

[OkayShooter]

Your K98 or a Kar98a? They are a very different beast, the K98 is easy to find parts, this is the WWII unit, the Kar98a is a rare animal.

Not when it comes to no drill options for peeps. I only ever found mojo sights for the Turkish mausers. Not the K98K.

 

[Fox]

I have a friend with a mill too, another thought I had is to look at how the rear sight works but may be able to install a mount on the rear sight and allow a generic peep to sit there. There is also the option of a long eye relief scope with a mount tied to the front sight, if it were stiff enough.

No, I would rather not drill this thing.

 

[OkayShooter]

I have a friend with a mill too, another thought I had is to look at how the rear sight works but may be able to install a mount on the rear sight and allow a generic peep to sit there. There is also the option of a long eye relief scope with a mount tied to the front sight, if it were stiff enough.

No, I would rather not drill this thing.

They make no drill mounts.

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[Potashminer]

100%

I was told that the guy I got it from had all the metal bits still around, just the stock was tossed. I found a guy who made stocks in Poland, would be $600 Canadian to get a new stock, but with the cost of the rifle, etc, it would make perfect sense to drop it into a repop stock.

My buddy grabbed the bag of parts and threw it my way, had a hinged floor plate, original Parker Hale trigger with side safety, replacement M98 firing pin and cocking piece and some sling swivels.

At this point I do not see this as a viable rebuild, unless I some day came across a Kar98A that happened to have a everything but a useful action and barrel (not likely). So my thought now is a rear peep sight to make the gun reasonable to use but not modifying the bolt. This way if that really rare chance at a rifle for a swap does happen I could have an as issued rifle with 2 tapped holes in the receiver.

Either that or shoot it with the irons as is now and deal with the gun not hitting point of aim, which is less useful.

We must look at things differently - any of those parts and a reproduction wood stock means what you have is no longer a Kar98a - but some might find that desirable?

I am in the process to build up a real "mix-master" 98 - the receiver is stamped by Husqvarna (so likely made by FN), the bolt was a random "sporterized" bolt that I got off CGN, same with the 7x57 barrel that a previous owner had the chamber deepened slightly - enough that I had to peel rear of barrel for bolt nose clearance, and then peel a bit from the barrel shoulder to get headspace correct on that barrel with that chamber in this receiver with this bolt. Below is a picture of the rear sight that I intend to use - I think it is a Parker Hale (or AGP) "Sportarget" sight that had been welded to a Mauser 98 cocking piece - appears the top front end of that cocking piece has been ground away - so will be an adventure to see if that is still useable in this bolt or not.

 

[Fox]

We must look at things differently - any of those parts and a reproduction wood stock means what you have is no longer a Kar98a - but some might find that desirable?

I am in the process to build up a real "mix-master" 98 - the receiver is stamped by Husqvarna (so likely made by FN), the bolt was a random "sporterized" bolt that I got off CGN, same with the 7x57 barrel that a previous owner had the chamber deepened slightly - enough that I had to peel rear of barrel for bolt nose clearance, and then peel a bit from the barrel shoulder to get headspace correct on that barrel with that chamber in this receiver with this bolt. Below is a picture of the rear sight that I intend to use - I think it is a Parker Hale (or AGP) "Sportarget" sight that had been welded to a Mauser 98 cocking piece - appears the top front end of that cocking piece has been ground away - so will be an adventure to see if that is still useable in this bolt or not.

I look at it this way, if I can keep it as original as I can at the moment it opens up options. If there is any way I can put together a better sighting system on it without drilling that is great, but at the same time it has already been mostly bastardized so why not use it.

I have a friend thought that picked up a No 1 Mk III* drill rifle for cheap, the chamber was drilled and welded, so could not be used. He then got a matching No 1 Mk III* sporter and swapped all the wood and metal bits over. Bam, rebuilt No 1 Mk III* in its entirety, much like they would have been in the war, just needs the stock redone.

So there are both sides to it. If I can swap the trigger for that parker hale and keep the original, then swap the cocking piece with one that I can weld on a peep like you have there I can always switch things back if I want to.

The hinged floor plate works great, the original is back in the bag of parts

 

[bearhunter]

OP, the Japanese figured out that problem with their late-war Arisaka Type 99 rifles.

They used a tangent mount rear sight that was very good.

When I first used this rear sight, I wasn't expecting it to be as good as it turned out.

I didn't think it would equal the usual "diopter" type rear sights that are mounted on the rear bridge of the receivers. I WAS WRONG. That sight was every bit as good and even had some advantages.

It worked so well that I modified a Lee Enfield, war time expedient "FLIP" style sight, to fit into the tangent base of a Brazilian 1908 Mauser, to use for offhand shooting at local club matches.

Those sights used to be a dime a dozen, quite literally. You could buy a factory box of 100 for a dollar at one time.

That arrangement worked perfectly for 300 yards.

I liked it so much that I looked for, and eventually found (in the days without internet) a manufacturer of a rear diopter type tangent mount sight.

It's only elevation adjustable but will accept different diameter orifices.

I don't have that rifle or sight now. My eyes just aren't good enough for diopters.

I believe the sight was made by Williams and is still available. Not cheap, but very nice.

You could also adapt an "orphan" rear sight, which are also available from online suppliers.