PGW Coyote in rem260 vs 6.5 Creedmore opinions.

I have a Coyote in 260rem as well, I'm shooting 139 scenars ~10 thou off the lands and COAL is 2.790. 2900FPS over 42.5 H4350. Very close to Macroman's load data and it shoots great! its my go too for deer and coyote's. I have loaded the 140 Berger hunting VLD's exactly the same and they shoot just as good.(I was very surprised)

if I were to go back I would not change a thing.

good luck.

Matt
 
marcoman said:
I have a .260 Coyote that I had PGW build to my specs with a reamer I supplied.
I had Dave Manson make me a .260 Rem reamer with a .298" neck and .060 freebore.
This alows me to use every popular 140 class bullet and seat the bullet to the lands and still feed from a mag.
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Marcoman, I would think the limiting factor here in terms of practicality would be the mag length. You could increase the freebore as much as you want, but if the round doesn't fit in the mag, then you're out of luck. (I would think anyway)
 
schumy said:
Marcoman, I would think the limiting factor here in terms of practicality would be the mag length. You could increase the freebore as much as you want, but if the round doesn't fit in the mag, then you're out of luck. (I would think anyway)
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Isn't that the point of a custom reamer (with short freebore) that allows him to load to mag length (as he says in his post), while still being able to be at the lands?

Not sure what you are trying to say...
 
schumy said:
Marcoman, I would think the limiting factor here in terms of practicality would be the mag length. You could increase the freebore as much as you want, but if the round doesn't fit in the mag, then you're out of luck. (I would think anyway)
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His reamer specs allow him adequate jump while still being able to feed from a magazine, chase the lands if needed.
 
For most applications custom throating is the only option if you want to match mag length to touching the lands in any chamber.
Usually a shorter freebore is the answer, but remember as you wear the throat the length increases.
Most factory offerings are usually longer than short mags allow.
 
Pr589 said:
Isn't that the point of a custom reamer (with short freebore) that allows him to load to mag length (as he says in his post), while still being able to be at the lands?

Not sure what you are trying to say...
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I was looking at it the other way around. So in reality what marcoman did is bring the lands closer than on a "standard" factory rifle, so that a round with mag OAL, would fit just shy of the lands. I thought he was lengthening the freebore rather than shortening it. This makes a lot more sense.

Thanks guys.
 
schumy said:
Marcoman, I would think the limiting factor here in terms of practicality would be the mag length. You could increase the freebore as much as you want, but if the round doesn't fit in the mag, then you're out of luck. (I would think anyway)
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Instead of lamenting the fact that PGW's mags were too short (exsessive jump) I spec'd a reamer to work within the limitations of the magazine. VLD's generally like to be seated into the lands which would have been impossible to achieve with the SAAMI dpec reamer and short mags. You would be limited to single feeding.
Do whatever you like, just telling you what I did.
 
marcoman said:
Instead of lamenting the fact that PGW's mags were too short (exsessive jump) I spec'd a reamer to work within the limitations of the magazine. VLD's generally like to be seated into the lands which would have been impossible to achieve with the SAAMI dpec reamer and short mags. You would be limited to single feeding.
Do whatever you like, just telling you what I did.
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Oh I'm not criticizing, my apologies if it came off as such, I was trying to figure out what you did.

Cheers
 
jugi16 said:
Macroman was kind enough to let me use his reamer when I re-barreled my PGW260. I'm shooting 136 scenars 10 thou off the lands and COAL is 2.800. 2870FPS over 42.3 H4350.
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That is some great speed with those 136 Scenars. I have a 260 being built right now and I hope I can get similar results with that same bullet. I have H4831SC and H4350 to try and a good supply of Lapua brass which I feel is the deciding factor in the 260 vs 6.5CM debate.
 
Just placed an order today with PGW for a Coyote in 6.5 Creed moor.

It was the performance of that round that convinced,cost was second.
Third was shoulder health...my Barrett MRAD .338LM is an awesome rifle but it's the 60-80 round days that dampen the sense of ha ha!
 
With McMillan A5 or folder.
How much did that set you back?
How long is the wait?
Just started looking into one in 260Rem.
bionicflite said:
Just placed an order today with PGW for a Coyote in 6.5 Creed moor.

It was the performance of that round that convinced,cost was second.
Third was shoulder health...my Barrett MRAD .338LM is an awesome rifle but it's the 60-80 round days that dampen the sense of ha ha!
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Is your 260Rem built with PGW standard Reamer to get those results?
Or were you fancy like "marcoman" with custom reamers?
MattMoser said:
I have a Coyote in 260rem as well, I'm shooting 139 scenars ~10 thou off the lands and COAL is 2.790. 2900FPS over 42.5 H4350. Very close to Macroman's load data and it shoots great! its my go too for deer and coyote's. I have loaded the 140 Berger hunting VLD's exactly the same and they shoot just as good.(I was very surprised)

if I were to go back I would not change a thing.

good luck.

Matt
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Good to hear their std build with 139 Scenar and 140 VLD hunting gives good results; these are my intended bullets.
Still debating Coyote, or 1.5k more for DT STS or 1k less for TRG.
MattMoser said:
Standard Reamer, nothing fancy here....
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Did you ever manage to find a McM stock in EE, or order it new?
About to order mine but then saw the DT SRS, drool.

Just reloading 139 Scenar and 140 VLD hunting for my CTR. Hopefully can stick with this for my eventual precision rifle.
Bird Blaster said:
My PGW .260 is a standard reamer. Just got it and have barely started load development with 139gr scenars and h4350
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MattMoser said:
Standard Reamer, nothing fancy here....
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burnaby said:
Is your 260Rem built with PGW standard Reamer to get those results?
Or were you fancy like "marcoman" with custom reamers?
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Nothing really unusual about the reamer I spec'd and ordered from Manson.
I just wanted the path of least resistance in regards to maintenance of brass and to ensure all loads could be fed from the magazine.
I spoke to a couple .260 Coyote owners prior to going this route. They have been having to neck turn with Lapua brass. I wanted no part of that scene.
 
marcoman said:
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I spoke to a couple .260 Coyote owners prior to going this route. They have been having to neck turn with Lapua brass. I wanted no part of that scene.
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I'm with you Marcoman - nothing I hate worse. I have an excellent custom .308 that requires that procedure and consequently it spends more time in the safe than being used
 
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