Pics Up - Now with Colt Letter! Colt Lightning -BABY- Saddle Ring Carbine!

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Ok, so I finally paid off some rifles that I bought a while ago and picked up last weekend. The one I was very excited to get was a very nice original condition (except wood refurb.) with an excellent bore, Colt Lightning Saddle Ring Carbine. Did a bunch of reading while I waited and couldn't wait to get it and put it on the scale! Turns out to be the BABY version at only 5.5 pounds!!!! Just have to make up some light cast loads and try this WEEEEE Little Baby out! I can't believe how small and light it is! Almost feels like carrying a Daisy Red Ryder around that can pump out .44-40!!!

DOM puts it to 1887!

Anyone have any information on these at all??
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Cheers,

Ian
 

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The .22's were considered the small frame rifles, the medium frame ones came in rifle (26"), Saddlering Carbine (20") at 6.5lbs and the Baby Saddlering Carbine (20") at only 5.5lbs. The only way that I have read to determine between the two carbines is to put them on the scale and check the weight. I don't have a regular carbine to look for other differences.

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Ian
 

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Interesting stuff! I have one; also in 44-40, 20" barrel and 5 1/2 lbs........but with some differences. Mine has; checkered forend wood, an extra barrel and mag tube band 1/2 way between muzzle and forend with a sling swivel, as well as a rear swivel inletted into the wood, and a fixed rear sight instead of the carbine style that yours has. Ser # is 60,###.
Mine has the same barrel address and same front sight as yours but does not have the Crown and V stamp behind the calibre designation that yours does and that would be expected.
 
A real treasure! Especially with the UK provenance.

We see a lot of these now in CAS, the best of the breed being the Pedersolis.
 
geologist said:
Sweet.

Now enrage all of the purists by mounting a red dot on it. ;)
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OP, if the rifle were ever British government property it would have been "broad arrow" stamped. If it were a military rifle, it wasn't issued by the government...I'm uncertain as to the rules for a young officer taking such a piece to the Boar conflict as a companion (possible?).
 
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Hope you enjoy yours as much as I like mine in 38-40. Slicker than a buttered turd. BTW if you need any screws or bits, check out coltparts. c o m , Amazing what is available, & the workmanship is top shelf.
Cheers
Jaguar/TheCounty
 
OK, how cool is this to get confirmation of it being a "Baby" version and it was originally shipped to England when new!!!IMG_20160304_163814.jpgw
 

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CMichaud said:
I had a shotgun made by WR Pape. His claim to fame on the rib of the barrels was inventor of the choke bore or words to that effect.

Pape was obviously the retailer in this case.
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Interesting! I thought that it would have been the owners name. Perhaps it was his rifle? Why would he stamp all the guns he sold with that if he didn't actually make it or own it personally? Just a thought. I'll have to see if I can find out more information on this gentleman. Thanks for the info!

Ian
 
England had many fine gunmakers/retailers during this period. They would stamp their names into pieces they retailed even tho they were often produced by another company to augment the firearms they themselves made in house. It allowed them to offer a full range of firearms while only making one type of firearm. Not familiar with this particular retailer.
Beautiful rifle

CM beat me to it^
 
CMichaud said:
British retailers often would add their names to the guns they would sell.

Think of it like the stickers/licence plate frames that car dealers slap on their cars:)
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Southlander said:
England had many fine gunmakers/retailers during this period. They would stamp their names into pieces they retailed even tho they were often produced by another company to augment the firearms they themselves made in house. It allowed them to offer a full range of firearms while only making one type of firearm. Not familiar with this particular retailer.
Beautiful rifle

CM beat me to it^
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Very interesting! I didn't know that! Thanks for the info.

I have since put a few rounds through it and it shoots like a dream! Couldn't get out back to set up a target and check out what she can do, but soon!

Cheers,

Ian
 
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