Pietta PPS-50 for target shooting & small game hunting?

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Does anyone here have a PPS-50? If so, I'm kinda curious as to how it would stand up as a target shooting or small game hunting gun? How reliable is it when shooting higher grade .22 lr? Assuming you're the 10 or 30 round mags (I'm not planning on the getting the 50 round drum).

I'm a big fan of WW2 era guns, and I'll probably end up getting it anyway, but I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I shell out a couple of hundred smackers
 
Although they're pretty good rifles, the trigger pretty much ruins it. Unless you're into a heavy, gritty trigger. Mine had issues feeding the first round but once it was in the chamber it ran great with everything from standard velocity to hyper velocity without a single failure. The trigger is terribly heavy, it has to be well over 10 lbs and is more fun to disassemble than spraying hot sauce in your eyes. But not by much. Hot sauce isn't that bad in comparison. Getting the hammer, hammer spring, hammer bushings and the crossbolt to align is best left to a true Jedi. Normal people will spray hot sauce in their eyes for relief. Invest in some loctite unless you enjoy looking for tiny screws and parts on the ground because every single fastener works loose quickly without it. Other than that its a really compact, badass little carbine that's fun to spray lead with. :)
 
... But in no universe, long long ago or far far away could it ever be considered a target rifle. It is a plinker that will kill small game out to 50 yards, but don't hope for much more than that.
 
Blastattack said:
... But in no universe, long long ago or far far away could it ever be considered a target rifle. It is a plinker that will kill small game out to 50 yards, but don't hope for much more than that.
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I thought as much. I'm figuring the reason why Pietta made the gun is just to appeal to gun nuts like myself who want a gun that looks like an old-timey submachine gun without the hassle of the laws around such a thing.

That being said, I didn't expect it to be anything other than a plinker. Though I am curious now about the hunting laws in Canada and hunting in general, so I got two more questions. Would the PPS-50 be legal for small game hunting, and is 50 yards/meters adequate for small game hunting? Embarrassing as it may be, I never fired a real gun yet (I only fired an air gun as a kid, mostly unattended even before I was 10 years old), but I hope to be going to a firing range soon and peel off my first shots.
 
50 yards is more than adequate. Keep in mind you are limited to hunting game such as Rabbits, Grouse, Pheasants and other birds and mammal in the <20lbs. range. Such critters are relatively small and don't show up at ranges greater than 50 yards, and usually much closer than that. Most "small game" can be shot with anything you have on hand (though don't use your 30-06 on a rabbit if you're hungry), but there may be caliber restrictions put in place by your provincial government. Guns are fun, and be sure to stock up on plenty of .22 LR. Having upwards of 10,000 rounds on hand is not unreasonable, if you can find any.
 
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50 yards is more than adequate. Keep in mind you are limited to hunting game such as Rabbits, Grouse, Pheasants and other birds and mammal in the <20lbs. range. Such critters are relatively small and don't show up at ranges greater than 50 yards, and usually much closer than that. Most "small game" can be shot with anything you have on hand (though don't use your 30-06 on a rabbit if you're hungry), but there may be caliber restrictions put in place by your provincial government. Guns are fun, and be sure to stock up on plenty of .22 LR. Having upwards of 10,000 rounds on hand is not unreasonable, if you can find any.
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Thanks, I sorta figured that using a 30-06 or some other caliber would be overkill since it would blow apart a lot of the body and make for less meat. I remember a video from R Lee Ermey's Lock n' Load when they shot a turkey with birdshot, buckshot, and slugs. The slugs completely tore a full quarter of the turkey apart, I can only imagine what it would do to a rabbit.
 
Different strokes for different folks... Personally I love the gun! Accurate, have had only has one jam in over 300 rounds. Made my old 10/22 look like crap hah. Such a fun gun, and I don't know what the other guy was talking about when he sad its a pain to take apart and clean, maybe if ur missing some fingers haha. I can have the gun apart and cleaned in no time. I take it gopher hunting and it seems to be great!
 
I had mine out at the range today for the first time, I have the wildcat stock version and it is a great little gun that functioned flawlessly with CCI Stingers. I put 300rounds of the stingers through it with no malfunctions also tried 2 rounds of CCI's new AR Tactical ammo and 1 malfunctioned so I will stick with the higher velocity Stinger ammo. According to the manual you can expect problems with ammo less than 1300 FPS also feeding problems with the drum mag if you use ammo with ridges on the bullet. I found it be comfortable with wildcat stock which comes with a Tapco fore-grip and 50 round drum mag. The drum mag is more difficult to load than the stick mag., I didn't find the loading instructions clear and failed on my first attempt which lead to the drum being disassembled. It was accurate enough at 100 ft. with a Bushnell red dot installed even with the wind today. I first saw this gun on youtube a few years back with the wildcat stock but was unable to find one in Canada with that setup until last week and fortunately they were on sale at the time. Overall very happy with the Pietta so far, we'll see how well it holds up over time.
 
ProudPhoenician said:
I thought as much. I'm figuring the reason why Pietta made the gun is just to appeal to gun nuts like myself who want a gun that looks like an old-timey submachine gun without the hassle of the laws around such a thing.

That being said, I didn't expect it to be anything other than a plinker. Though I am curious now about the hunting laws in Canada and hunting in general, so I got two more questions. Would the PPS-50 be legal for small game hunting, and is 50 yards/meters adequate for small game hunting? Embarrassing as it may be, I never fired a real gun yet (I only fired an air gun as a kid, mostly unattended even before I was 10 years old), but I hope to be going to a firing range soon and peel off my first shots.
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I don't think they're a great choice for hunting, personally. I know you have to get what you want (or why bother? :) ) but having put 10kms+ on the boots a day hunting small game, every ounce of weight matters and not only that...when it's "go" time and you're lining-up some furry/feathery creature...you want to hit it cleanly, and have a 100% reliable/accurate gun in your hands. The novelty of a heavy-triggered semi with a long magazine jutting out from it will wear-off quick, trust me, when you drive 3 hours, hike several kms, then can't hit your target when you finally pull the trigger. If it's a rifle you'll take to a range and bust pop cans with, I get the appeal. A bush gun for hunting? I would never recommend it. I have a Marlin 795 I bought for $100 for grouse hunting, had some trigger work done on it ($40) and it shoots great, VERY light. Even WITH that rifle in the safe, I still reach for a bolt action .22lr.
 
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