Pistol grip for the Kel Tec SU-16F?
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Many of them out there, bought my first one from Wanstalls. Many of he site sponsors will carry them the trick is just finding someone who has them in stock. They seem to come in short supply and sell pretty quick. 100% legal here tho.
i picked one up from a guy on here in the EE. picked up the compact forend for it as well. the folding bipod it comes with is cheesy and usless (IMO). keep creepin the EE and calling around to stores in your local area. they do come but they sell out real quick. ill never go back to the old grip on mine. ill see if i can grab a picture of mine if i can find it on my comp.
With an optic mounted I found mine did 1 3/4" groups with Hornady steel match and managed to get similar with my handloads using Hornady V-Max 50gr with IMR 4895. My groups with surplus ammo varied quite a bit subject to the brand: I found the MFS steel case to very unpredictable and I would sometimes get 8" groups, and the Norinco brass cased 5.56 would shoot consistent 3-4" groups at 3500 fps, which I considered fine for inexpensive ammo. If you want a portable light rifle for hiking I think it's a good choice: I stupidly sold mine, and now that it's not too warm and dry for my out-of-shape self to go exploring, I'm looking for another. I'll probably buy one off the EE at some point from someone who lost interest or needs cash for something else.
Advantages:
It's fun to shoot.
It's semi-auto and you can use 10 round LAR mags.
It's chambered for 5.56.
You can use the tip of a 5.56/.223 round to push the pins out to disassemble and clean the rifle, so you don't need to carry tools.
The rifle is extremely light.
The rifle folds and it's fairly quick to deploy from folded.
While less than ideal, the integral bi-pod CAN be useful and it's light.
If you strap it to the outside of your backpack it's ok, the plastic is more durable then you'd expect.
Disadvantages:
It's fun to shoot.
It shoots 5.56 which is inadequate as a defensive round.
It's a plastic KelTec firearm.
The barrel is light and heats up fast which means your groups open up after a couple of mags.
If you drop and loose the pin that holds the folding stock in position it's a pain to shoot.
Mags stored in the butt-stock can pop out and fall in the creek you're crossing.
A bit expensive for a $500 gun.
It's not as accurate as a cheap bolt gun.
The pistol grip is awesome but alot heavier than the factory stock. I've found the trigger is more crisp and lighter in the pistol grip.
There are a million keltec haters out there. I have had NO issues with my Su 16 and 22. Guess I got lucky
There are a million keltec haters out there. I have had NO issues with my Su 16 and 22. Guess I got lucky
No issues on mine. I used one hunting coyotes in -40 here in Sask. I have a Burris Ar 332 mounted on it an its MOA coyote out to 200-250 yards. Im using cheap MFS 55 gr. Hp's
** I beleive you can order just the pistol grip from Kel-tec as its under $99. Im on a wait list for it rightnow.
** I beleive you can order just the pistol grip from Kel-tec as its under $99. Im on a wait list for it rightnow.
Yes about two years ago, now that Vault is the Canadian distributer, the answer is NO.
( Vault is BAD for Canadians!!!!!!!!!) Monopoly!!!!! GURRRR
( Vault is BAD for Canadians!!!!!!!!!) Monopoly!!!!! GURRRR
Huh? It's the small arms round of a ton of countries, I wouldn't call it inadequate if loaded with the proper bullet.
Not to mention the su16 has the benefit of the first round having nine of it's friends following behind it.
If you put a pistol grip on it im pretty sure you can't fold it anymore. That makes it a pretty useless backpack gun for the wilderness.
It still folds with the pistol grip but is definitely bigger than the original. Wanstals in maple ridge or whatever aparently has them in stock right now according to their website. I haven't tried groupings yet with mine. Been mostly doing the tony Montana style of shooting with it. Lol. Waitin for my optic(lucid hd7 red dot w/2x magnifier) and then I will be checking. For me I'm personally only looking for 50-80 yds for shooting. I anticipate with ammo that isn't surplus I should be able to get 1-2" grps. Time will tell. Overall I LOVE this gun. Cheaper than an AR, reliable and I can shoot it in the bush. Not just at the range.
I expect this gun to be not perfect at all, as I was able to see some reviews on youtube. BUT, as I said earlier, it will be a backpack carbine so, do you have another non-restricter foldable (or very small?) backpack carbine to suggest? Also loved the .223 caliber for cheap cost and availability (can get it at wallmart!!)
As i can evaluate without having the rifle in my own hands, it looks as accurate as a SKS. Am I right?
Dark
As i can evaluate without having the rifle in my own hands, it looks as accurate as a SKS. Am I right?
Dark
I should have been specific with what I was referring too: Against human targets the 5.56 is probably very effective; I sure wouldn't want to get hit by one, but but I wouldn't trust it to drop a bear/cougar as quick as I'd be comfortable which is more what I'm concerned about when hiking.
I'm doing a partridge hunting trip in the north of quebec. There's more animals to hunt like coyotes and wolves, and we may see some bears. So i will have my shotgun always on me, but I want this foldable rifle on the backpack in case that long range will be an issue.
If an angry bear come to me, if my shotgun is'nt already in my hands (wich have always 2 slugs and 3 buckshots cartridge stored on the buttstock), I would be confident having a .223 with me. I'm convinced that 3 rounds placed anywhere on a bear could stop him, or convince him to turn away... If not, 2 others round in the head would finish the job.
Evil_dark
