hello i,am new to reloading. and any advice would be appreseated. my ? is i have a marlin 94 44 rem mag it,s in excellent shape. and i,am reloading my own. is a riffle like mine able to take a heaveyer load then a pistol or less.the reson i ,am asking in gunworld Aug o6 magazine this man stan Trzoniec is making loads like 22.0 of 2400 240 grain bullets varietys. in 44 mag. and shotting them in S&W 44 mag hand gun. Thank you
pistol vs. riffle
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Consult more than one reloading manual and follow the recipes that have already been tested.
The manuals have a starting load and a max load, you rifle may reach maximum pressure before the max load is achieved so always start low and work up. Loading below the minimum can be very dangerous so read a lot and get some professional instruction.
Consult more than one reloading manual and follow the recipes that have already been tested.
The manuals have a starting load and a max load, you rifle may reach maximum pressure before the max load is achieved so always start low and work up.
Loading below the minimum can be very dangerous so read a lot and get some professional instruction.44 mag.
303 carbine has provided you with sound advice.... as you state your new to reloading, buy at " minimum," one reloading manual...........read it from cover to cover and repeat as necessary until you feel you understand the process enough to give it a try........
To answer your question........the 22.0 grains of 2400 and 240 gr. rem jacketed is the max load in Lyman Manual #48 for a rifle load.
Max pistol load ....same components...same manual ... shot in pistol is 21.6 gr. 2400.......some manuals have the same max for both rifle and pistol with the specific powder loads in their charts... and some may have "a " grain more powder for rifle loads...........and it varies from book to book somewhat as each book is using different components to assemble the same .44 mag shell...
Your benefit with developing a safe and accurate load for your rifle is that it will exceed the velocity of this same round shot in a pistol (short barrel vs long one)......this provides a somewhat flatter trajectory and provides more energy down range on any thing you choose to hunt.......
good luck........
hs4570............your mileage may vary
303 carbine has provided you with sound advice.... as you state your new to reloading, buy at " minimum," one reloading manual...........read it from cover to cover and repeat as necessary until you feel you understand the process enough to give it a try........
To answer your question........the 22.0 grains of 2400 and 240 gr. rem jacketed is the max load in Lyman Manual #48 for a rifle load.
Max pistol load ....same components...same manual ... shot in pistol is 21.6 gr. 2400.......some manuals have the same max for both rifle and pistol with the specific powder loads in their charts... and some may have "a " grain more powder for rifle loads...........and it varies from book to book somewhat as each book is using different components to assemble the same .44 mag shell...
Your benefit with developing a safe and accurate load for your rifle is that it will exceed the velocity of this same round shot in a pistol (short barrel vs long one)......this provides a somewhat flatter trajectory and provides more energy down range on any thing you choose to hunt.......
good luck........
hs4570............your mileage may vary
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The loads for 44 mag rifle and pistol in my manuals are almost exact. The diff in FPS comes from the length of the barrel.
I don't know of this article in Gunworld you speak of, but I have been shooting the same load out of both my pistol and rifle (Dan Wesson & Marlin 1894). Now, I'm not running at the top of the scale, but I'm always watching for pressure signs. So far, no problems ('cept maybe a sore hand )
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I don't know of this article in Gunworld you speak of, but I have been shooting the same load out of both my pistol and rifle (Dan Wesson & Marlin 1894). Now, I'm not running at the top of the scale, but I'm always watching for pressure signs. So far, no problems ('cept maybe a sore hand
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you also have to treat each gun seperately- some actions may not take the same pressures others will- work slowly and build each up and watch for yoour pressure signs- soon as you see it that's where quit and back off a notch - i've got 4 identical rifles and they all have a different pressure curve( actually it's 6 and they're all 308)as to the 44 mag, i have a ruger redhawk and a win 94 trapper , so i'm pretty sure they could take all i can give safely, if anything , the winchester might be a little "weaker"
That load of 22grs. of 2400 w/240gr. bullet was Elmer Keiths old load ...alot of manuals now consider it too hot....and even Elmer said that steady diet of this load would eventually loosen up a S&W. If you want that type of power you could go to a slower burning powder like H110 or a heavier bullet at less speed! Elmers load was for a cast bullet not a jacketed one as they produce more pressure, he also insisted on a Large Pistol primer not a mag. primer!
Just so you know, in many cases the MAX load in a particular cartridge often WILL NOT yield the BEST results in terms of accuracy and terminal performance. That means faster ain't always better!
Pick up a couple of good reloading manuals like the Lyman 48th ed, Speer #13, etc...and start from there.
Pick up a couple of good reloading manuals like the Lyman 48th ed, Speer #13, etc...and start from there.
