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if i had pics youd be looking at them, thats why im not very hopefull.
so the 1918 on reciever is the year of manufacture? could it be the 98a carbine version since it seemed like a short rifle?
What i need is enough info to register it. is the 16XX on most parts the serial number? If so do you think i could just register that?
whats the caliber on a gew98?
and what are the most common rebarrelings?
Thanks
Erfurt was not making Gewehr 98s after 1908, only assembling them from sub contracted parts in small batches (star rifles).
My guess would be a Kar 98. Erfurt was the primary producer of the Kar98 from 1908 to 1918 and at it's height was putting out close to 1000 carbines a day (almost a carbine every minute!). Some Erfurt serials show double suffix blocks to indicate this high level of output.
Is she in full military ? Sporter ? Be careful with the U.S. import laws, that carbine would have to be de-registered in the U.S. and pre-registered up here in Canada which apparently is a costly and timely pursuit and only after you find someone in the U.S. willing to deal with you and an importer in Canada with the licenses for import.
The caliber, if it hasn't been turned into a sporter, would be 7.92x57mm Mauser.
As others have mentioned, pics would be great
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If you have no pictures, you may notice some similarities compared to these two Kar 98s:
My guess would be a Kar 98. Erfurt was the primary producer of the Kar98 from 1908 to 1918 and at it's height was putting out close to 1000 carbines a day (almost a carbine every minute!). Some Erfurt serials show double suffix blocks to indicate this high level of output.
Is she in full military ? Sporter ? Be careful with the U.S. import laws, that carbine would have to be de-registered in the U.S. and pre-registered up here in Canada which apparently is a costly and timely pursuit and only after you find someone in the U.S. willing to deal with you and an importer in Canada with the licenses for import.
The caliber, if it hasn't been turned into a sporter, would be 7.92x57mm Mauser.
As others have mentioned, pics would be great
.If you have no pictures, you may notice some similarities compared to these two Kar 98s:
Erfurt was not making Gewehr 98s after 1908, only assembling them from sub contracted parts in small batches (star rifles).
My guess would be a Kar 98. Erfurt was the primary producer of the Kar98 from 1908 to 1918 and at it's height was putting out close to 1000 carbines a day (almost a carbine every minute!). Some Erfurt serials show double suffix blocks to indicate this high level of output.
Is she in full military ? Sporter ? Be careful with the U.S. import laws, that carbine would have to be de-registered in the U.S. and pre-registered up here in Canada which apparently is a costly and timely pursuit and only after you find someone in the U.S. willing to deal with you and an importer in Canada with the licenses for import.
The caliber, if it hasn't been turned into a sporter, would be 7.92x57mm Mauser.
As others have mentioned, pics would be great
If you have no pictures, do you notice any similarities between these examples these types of markings ?
thanks i think you might be right about the kar98. ya its definatly the same crown stamp (erfurt). Do you happen to know if the canada registry would accept the serial number, date of manufacture, place of manufacture. or do they need model as well? ya im aware it needs to be registered first last time i was in the states i neglicted to get pics, so id like to register it before my next trip down.
Thanks again!!
i dont think so ive already registered another one. (marlin 336) ive inherited from a family member in the states. what more would i need if im taking it across the border myself?
Do you know if the registration is instant. (could i register it over the phone when im down there and take it back to canada before i have the registration slip in hand?
The Kar98 will have to be de-registered in the U.S. as it is post 1898 made. If you walk across the border with it without doing that you'll be in for a heap of trouble if Customs happens to find out.
As far as I know, the process is not instant and you need to go through a dealer or a licensed business as the U.S. government will not deal with citizens on a one to one basis. I believe you need the papers in hand before declaring it at Customs.
If you frequently go down to the U.S., have a look around for a firearm business that has the import/export license and ask them about your Kar 98. They may agree to deal with you face to face rather then on the phone. Everyone's rates for the paperwork is different but ask them before committing so you can get a decent rate if need be. Once the paperwork clears (I think it takes a month or so, does anyone know for sure ?), the government will mail the paperwork to the issuing business, you would then call up the CFC or go online and register the Kar98 and wait for the CFC papers to come through. The issuing business in the U.S. should have the export documents along with the de-registration papers for the U.S. when you pick the Kar98 up. My next suggestion would be to go on Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada's website and fill out an importation form (free to do and can be filled out online, they e-mail you the PDF that you can print out and takes just under a week to do). Match the U.S. documents up with your CFC papers and DFAIT's import paper and you should have everything you need to safely and legally bring her back up to Canada (someone correct me if I am wrong please).
When you do eventually get her up here, let us know how your process went.
As far as I know, the process is not instant and you need to go through a dealer or a licensed business as the U.S. government will not deal with citizens on a one to one basis. I believe you need the papers in hand before declaring it at Customs.
If you frequently go down to the U.S., have a look around for a firearm business that has the import/export license and ask them about your Kar 98. They may agree to deal with you face to face rather then on the phone. Everyone's rates for the paperwork is different but ask them before committing so you can get a decent rate if need be. Once the paperwork clears (I think it takes a month or so, does anyone know for sure ?), the government will mail the paperwork to the issuing business, you would then call up the CFC or go online and register the Kar98 and wait for the CFC papers to come through. The issuing business in the U.S. should have the export documents along with the de-registration papers for the U.S. when you pick the Kar98 up. My next suggestion would be to go on Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada's website and fill out an importation form (free to do and can be filled out online, they e-mail you the PDF that you can print out and takes just under a week to do). Match the U.S. documents up with your CFC papers and DFAIT's import paper and you should have everything you need to safely and legally bring her back up to Canada (someone correct me if I am wrong please).
When you do eventually get her up here, let us know how your process went.
As far as I understand, anything dated 1898 (i.e. Swedish Mauser with an 1898 date on the receiver) or later would be required for registration in their respective state governed under the rules of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
I think they list these firearms as "Category 1".
By the way, I edited my previous post on Page 1 with some information regarding importing a firearm to Canada from the U.S. based on my relatively recent barrel purchase from the U.S., you may find it helpful.
I think they list these firearms as "Category 1".
By the way, I edited my previous post on Page 1 with some information regarding importing a firearm to Canada from the U.S. based on my relatively recent barrel purchase from the U.S., you may find it helpful.
Registration is not instant. I believe you have to take the firearm to a canadian verifier, they put it in the system and give you a number, then you can do it over the phone
And I wouldnt just bring it across the border. Youre asking for a headache.
And I wouldnt just bring it across the border. Youre asking for a headache.
Many States do not have registration per se, but anything post-1898 is governed by Federal regs, despite the Second Amendment (which every Constitution-loving administration since Lincoln has been trying to get rid of).
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oh jeezus... good luck my friend.
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Just a point, it depends on what state you are importing it from. Most states don't require rifles to be registered.
originaly i called the canadian border services to find out the procedure and was told that if it was inherited in the states and not purchased i didnt need an import permit or anything for it. only proof that it was registered to me.
