Please recommend a 200-400 yards rifle+scope

Also, a few people mentioned .223 better because of the ammo cost. I am seeing .308 being sold for about the same price. Or perhaps I am just not looking at the right ammo websites?
 
You can do very well with a Savage Model 10 In .223. or a similar Remington, Tikka, etc. The Savage will reach out to 600+ yards consistently and with precision with good ammunition. So will the others. If you choose to reload, you can do even better. Seriously, great rifles, high quality, in my experience. Economical to shoot in .223, very forgiving, easy to manage recoil, lots of good recipes for handloads. Try Sierra 77 grain SMK's!! Awesome bullets.

Get a Bushnell Elite, or a Vortex scope, minimum 10x, something in a variable 5-15x or bigger if you can afford it. The Savage can be upgraded piece by piece should you desire to do so, you can even use it as a base to build a total custom precision rig later on. Only thing left to decide is which one to buy now.
 
peacefrog said:
You can do very well with a Savage Model 10 In .223. or a similar Remington, Tikka, etc. The Savage will reach out to 600+ yards consistently and with precision with good ammunition. So will the others. If you choose to reload, you can do even better. Seriously, great rifles, high quality, in my experience. Economical to shoot in .223, very forgiving, easy to manage recoil, lots of good recipes for handloads. Try Sierra 77 grain SMK's!! Awesome bullets.

Get a Bushnell Elite, or a Vortex scope, minimum 10x, something in a variable 5-15x or bigger if you can afford it. The Savage can be upgraded piece by piece should you desire to do so, you can even use it as a base to build a total custom precision rig later on. Only thing left to decide is which one to buy now.
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Thank you for your suggestions.
Unfortunately, at this time I am not looking to reload. I live in small condo in Toronto. No space for even essential items lol.
 
stockriderman said:
Also, a few people mentioned .223 better because of the ammo cost. I am seeing .308 being sold for about the same price. Or perhaps I am just not looking at the right ammo websites?
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For simple FMJ ammo, .223 can be had for ~50c/piece if bought in bulk, maybe even a little cheaper if you luck out on a sale or whatnot. For .308 you're looking at probably around 80c or more per bang. So what I'm trying to say is .308 is basically double the cost of .223 when buying loaded ammunition.

When reloading with Campro bullets the cost (not including brass) is ~35c for .223 and ~59c for .308, per round. Still much cheaper to shoot .223.

I see you don't want to reload for a while. I think this is wise, new shooters should just focus on shooting and learning the basics, their firearms, safety, form, technique, and when the groups have shrunk about as much as can be shrunk with factory ammunition, at that time then decide if reloading is an endeavour you'd like to pursue. Me personally, LOVE reloading. I find it very relaxing, and rewarding, but I don't save money reloading, I just shoot more! Being able to tune a load to a specific rifle is just like finding the right kind of factory ammo for your rifle, it's just that with reloading you have thousands of different combinations and options at your fingertips. Getting into reloading can be pricey if you go the "buy once, cry once" route, but there are cheaper alternatives that work well and get people going.

As to what rifle, I'd be looking at something with a heavy-barrel. I had my .223 (cz 527 american) out to our new range last week on a fairly warm day (26c), and it has a thin barrel. Take two shots, wait 30 seconds, take a shot, wait 45 seconds, take a shot, wait a minute, take a shot, put rifle on stand and check target / wait around 10 minutes to shoot another 5-shot string. And the barrel was still very hot, in between shots I was using my hand as a heatsink to try and absorb some of the heat out of the barrel! So seeing as you want a dedicated range rifle, get a heavy-barrel. It'll allow you to shoot more as the barrel will dissipate the heat better, and the added weight will absorb some of the recoil.
 
Prairie Plinker said:
For simple FMJ ammo, .223 can be had for ~50c/piece if bought in bulk, maybe even a little cheaper if you luck out on a sale or whatnot. For .308 you're looking at probably around 80c or more per bang. So what I'm trying to say is .308 is basically double the cost of .223 when buying loaded ammunition.

When reloading with Campro bullets the cost (not including brass) is ~35c for .223 and ~59c for .308, per round. Still much cheaper to shoot .223.

I see you don't want to reload for a while. I think this is wise, new shooters should just focus on shooting and learning the basics, their firearms, safety, form, technique, and when the groups have shrunk about as much as can be shrunk with factory ammunition, at that time then decide if reloading is an endeavour you'd like to pursue. Me personally, LOVE reloading. I find it very relaxing, and rewarding, but I don't save money reloading, I just shoot more! Being able to tune a load to a specific rifle is just like finding the right kind of factory ammo for your rifle, it's just that with reloading you have thousands of different combinations and options at your fingertips. Getting into reloading can be pricey if you go the "buy once, cry once" route, but there are cheaper alternatives that work well and get people going.

As to what rifle, I'd be looking at something with a heavy-barrel. I had my .223 (cz 527 american) out to our new range last week on a fairly warm day (26c), and it has a thin barrel. Take two shots, wait 30 seconds, take a shot, wait 45 seconds, take a shot, wait a minute, take a shot, put rifle on stand and check target / wait around 10 minutes to shoot another 5-shot string. And the barrel was still very hot, in between shots I was using my hand as a heatsink to try and absorb some of the heat out of the barrel! So seeing as you want a dedicated range rifle, get a heavy-barrel. It'll allow you to shoot more as the barrel will dissipate the heat better, and the added weight will absorb some of the recoil.
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Thank you for the suggestions! Especially about the heavy barrel=better for sunny days info!!

bobfortier said:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...need-to-start-in-F-TR-!-(Rifle-and-component)

Start with this and add a scope of your choice !
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Unfortunately I don't have access to this forum's section just yet. I just asked to be approved for the For Sale section yesterday(if that's where your link is located).
 
peacefrog said:
You can do very well with a Savage Model 10 In .223. or a similar Remington, Tikka, etc. The Savage will reach out to 600+ yards consistently and with precision with good ammunition. So will the others. If you choose to reload, you can do even better. Seriously, great rifles, high quality, in my experience. Economical to shoot in .223, very forgiving, easy to manage recoil, lots of good recipes for handloads. Try Sierra 77 grain SMK's!! Awesome bullets.

Get a Bushnell Elite, or a Vortex scope, minimum 10x, something in a variable 5-15x or bigger if you can afford it. The Savage can be upgraded piece by piece should you desire to do so, you can even use it as a base to build a total custom precision rig later on. Only thing left to decide is which one to buy now.
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^^^^^^This. I have a Savage 10 FCPK with a Bushnell Elite Tactical and it shoots Federal Gold Medal Match 69SMK(factory ammo) beautifully out to 400+ meters. Cows keep me from trying much further.
Handloads with Varget powder and 75 Hornady BTHP are even better.

I let a friend shoot it at the Peterborough Range a month ago and he was shooting almost in the same hole @ 100m. His worst was still inside a dime.
 
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